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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 22, 2014 20:28:42 GMT
I think it's something like this. At least I hope there's something salacious involving a woman. or involving a man.
Puts the James a Gillies kiss into a whole new light.
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Post by snacky on Nov 22, 2014 23:27:55 GMT
Puts the James a Gillies kiss into a whole new light. I've posted in the past about how for such a pretty guy YB pretty much convinces me in his acting roles that his character is not gay (still not quite sure how he does this). I'm paying particular attention to that, too, because this is a role where YB is not portraying the classic American rude, crude "macho" guy who runs over everyone in the room: and supposedly does that because if he doesn't people might mistake him for being gay. William is a quiet and responsible guy, polite, respectful of women, remaining in the background, and giving other people space to expand, and...still not gay. Has everything in the world in common with Pendrick, babbles about a wild night with 3 sailors, Gillies kisses him...still not gay. This more or less went for all his previous TV shows as well. It seems American men might have to revisit their "formula". Someone tell me if my slash glasses are just broken, though.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 22, 2014 23:38:35 GMT
Puts the James a Gillies kiss into a whole new light. I've posted in the past about how for such a pretty guy YB pretty much convinces me in his acting roles that his character is not gay (still not quite sure how he does this). I'm paying particular attention to that, too, because this is a role where YB is not portraying the classic American rude, crude "macho" guy who runs over everyone in the room: and supposedly does that because if he doesn't people might mistake him for being gay. William is a quiet and responsible guy, polite, respectful of women, remaining in the background, and giving other people space to expand, and...still not gay. Has everything in the world in common with Pendrick, babbles about a wild night with 3 sailors, Gillies kisses him...still not gay. This more or less went for all his previous TV shows as well. It seems American men might have to revisit their "formula". Someone tell me if my slash glasses are just broken, though. I'm not a slasher-stop trying to portray me as one! I'm gonna have to stop joking around you. No, I'm not for a moment saying William is gay-he's not. But you're right-there's nothing overtly macho about it, but it's strong nonetheless. Which is is why I think the kiss with Gillies was brilliant-it would mess with his head-and not because he secretly wants to sleep with Gillies either. William has a night with 3 sailors? What? I don't remember that.
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Post by snacky on Nov 22, 2014 23:55:59 GMT
I'm not a slasher-stop trying to portray me as one! I'm gonna have to stop joking around you. No, I'm not for a moment saying William is gay-he's not. But you're right-there's nothing overtly macho about it, but it's strong nonetheless. Which is is why I think the kiss with Gillies was brilliant-it would mess with his head-and not because he secretly wants to sleep with Gillies either. William has a night with 3 sailors? What? I don't remember that. Well I'm not sure if I'd call it slash because this doesn't sound particularly consensual to me, but you do have to have some sort of glasses on to interpret this scene: murdochmysteriesfans.proboards.com/thread/978/moments-when-murdoch-mysteries-edgyBlame Bloupine not me! I agree about Gillies: but I get the feeling if William had initiated it, that might have reset my slash glasses regarding him. And I'm still in the Emily-is-a-Sapphist camp until the writers throw a convincing BF at her, so it's not like I'm not ready for any possibility. I actually kind of wanted William/Pendrick because I like James Pendrick so much and wanted to see more of him...but I juuuuuuuuuust couldn't see it. Not even as a side dish.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 23, 2014 4:33:11 GMT
I'm not a slasher-stop trying to portray me as one! I'm gonna have to stop joking around you. No, I'm not for a moment saying William is gay-he's not. But you're right-there's nothing overtly macho about it, but it's strong nonetheless. Which is is why I think the kiss with Gillies was brilliant-it would mess with his head-and not because he secretly wants to sleep with Gillies either. William has a night with 3 sailors? What? I don't remember that. Well I'm not sure if I'd call it slash because this doesn't sound particularly consensual to me, but you do have to have some sort of glasses on to interpret this scene: murdochmysteriesfans.proboards.com/thread/978/moments-when-murdoch-mysteries-edgyBlame Bloupine not me! I agree about Gillies: but I get the feeling if William had initiated it, that might have reset my slash glasses regarding him. And I'm still in the Emily-is-a-Sapphist camp until the writers throw a convincing BF at her, so it's not like I'm not ready for any possibility. I actually kind of wanted William/Pendrick because I like James Pendrick so much and wanted to see more of him...but I juuuuuuuuuust couldn't see it. Not even as a side dish. Oh, so he didn't actually say it then...it's just someone trying to be slashy and not canon? I'm confused. I'm not ready to slash Emily because she had no chemistry with George...I'm taking a wait and see approach. Maybe she has no chemistry with Lillian Moss either. I certainly don't think they'll portray her as a sapphist after the looks she was giving Henry and even William last week.
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Post by snacky on Nov 23, 2014 5:52:06 GMT
Oh, so he didn't actually say it then...it's just someone trying to be slashy and not canon? I'm confused. I'm not ready to slash Emily because she had no chemistry with George...I'm taking a wait and see approach. Maybe she has no chemistry with Lillian Moss either. I certainly don't think they'll portray her as a sapphist after the looks she was giving Henry and even William last week. He did say it! Those gifs are actual lines from that episode! William is pretty unselfconscious when he's trying to recount what happened, lol. On seeing it again, the effect is the same as this: At some level, you have to wonder if it's intentional... Anyway, I think Emily's looks at Henry are just as forced as they were with George. As far as Leslie goes: Emily's default assumption is that she SHOULD be with a man. I think the fact she chose Leslie shows she has a penchant for the new and exciting: it's a sign that men in general might be too boring for her! I'm hoping when Emily was scoping out William and imagining his nightly "romantic prowess", she was thinking... naw, that's so 19th century.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 23, 2014 6:59:24 GMT
Oh, so he didn't actually say it then...it's just someone trying to be slashy and not canon? I'm confused. I'm not ready to slash Emily because she had no chemistry with George...I'm taking a wait and see approach. Maybe she has no chemistry with Lillian Moss either. I certainly don't think they'll portray her as a sapphist after the looks she was giving Henry and even William last week. He did say it! Those gifs are actual lines from that episode! William is pretty unselfconscious when he's trying to recount what happened, lol. On seeing it again, the effect is the same as this: <img src="http://41.media.tumblr.com/7bdb9e4325a1c9f0036cd01397e34b22/tumblr_n6vcx8mYFS1qd6jbko1_500.png" style="max-width:100%;" alt=""><br><br>At some level, you have to wonder if it's intentional...<br><br>Anyway, I think Emily's looks at Henry are just as forced as they were with George. As far as Leslie goes: Emily's default assumption is that she SHOULD be with a man. I think the fact she chose Leslie shows she has a penchant for the new and exciting: it's a sign that men in general might be too boring for her!<br><br>I'm hoping when Emily was scoping out William and imagining his nightly "romantic prowess", she was thinking... naw, that's so 19th century. What episode is the pic from? I don't remember this or the sailor one... As for Emily, I don't think she was dissing William at all-methinks you're projecting.
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Post by snacky on Nov 23, 2014 7:26:13 GMT
>I'm hoping when Emily was scoping out William and imagining his nightly "romantic prowess", she was thinking... naw, that's so 19th century. What episode is the pic from? I don't remember this or the sailor one... As for Emily, I don't think she was dissing William at all-methinks you're projecting. Hey I said "hoping" not "dissing"! We don't know how her little assessment came out. But you don't think William/Julia are roughly equivalent to parents to her? The 3 Sailors is from The Murdoch Trap. The Fragile Sister is from Me, Myself, and Murdoch.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 23, 2014 7:45:38 GMT
What episode is the pic from? I don't remember this or the sailor one... As for Emily, I don't think she was dissing William at all-methinks you're projecting. Hey I said "hoping" not "dissing"! We don't know how her little assessment came out. But you don't think William/Julia are roughly equivalent to parents to her? The 3 Sailors is from The Murdoch Trap. The Fragile Sister is from Me, Myself, and Murdoch. I don't think I'd say parents-Julia's more like an older sister, mentor and BFF, while I'd wager that she doesn't really know William at all. I think she was trying to reconcile the William she knows (all business) with the hot lover. She's never considered him to be a great lover, yet her BFF has a happy sex glow going and it's thrown her for a loop. Her worldview has been challenged. No wonder I don't know the 3 sailors bit-I've largely blocked that ep out of my consciousness. If they bring Gillies back, I'm going to be very concerned for the show and think that they have officially run out of ideas. But now that you mention it, I think I remember that bit about the sister, and remember laughing that William even made that innuendo.
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Post by snacky on Nov 23, 2014 7:58:46 GMT
I don't think I'd say parents-Julia's more like an older sister, mentor and BFF, while I'd wager that she doesn't really know William at all. I think she was trying to reconcile the William she knows (all business) with the hot lover. She's never considered him to be a great lover, yet her BFF has a happy sex glow going and it's thrown her for a loop. Her worldview has been challenged. Since we are talking about imagination: 1) Who gets in bed first and waits for the other one? 2) How does Julia keep her hair in all those fashionable coifs - I know she doesn't want to go to bed with a head full of curlers with William still ready for romance every night! 3) Does William read out loud to Julia (in bed) from Scientific American or Popular Mechanics? 4) If William got so querulous over the possibility of cold soup, can you imagine how he might get over crumbs in the bed or losing a corner of the blanket? Or dust? Hmm. What's Julia's strategy here? 5) Will William remember to keep up the grand gestures now that they are married? Will Julia? I imagine William might like a bouquet every now and again.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 23, 2014 8:16:13 GMT
I don't think I'd say parents-Julia's more like an older sister, mentor and BFF, while I'd wager that she doesn't really know William at all. I think she was trying to reconcile the William she knows (all business) with the hot lover. She's never considered him to be a great lover, yet her BFF has a happy sex glow going and it's thrown her for a loop. Her worldview has been challenged. Since we are talking about imagination: 1) Who gets in bed first and waits for the other one? 2) How does Julia keep her hair in all those fashionable coifs - I know she doesn't want to go to bed with a head full of curlers with William still ready for romance every night! 3) Does William read out loud to Julia (in bed) from Scientific American or Popular Mechanics? 4) If William got so querulous over the possibility of cold soup, can you imagine how he might get over crumbs in the bed or losing a corner of the blanket? Or dust? Hmm. What's Julia's strategy here? 5) Will William remember to keep up the grand gestures now that they are married? Will Julia? I imagine William might like a bouquet every now and again. 1.) I think they're going to bed together right now. 2.) I always assumed that her hair was naturally curly, and that she just pins it up. Of course in reality, it's a just a wig. 3.) I like to think that William's reading 1,001 Tales of the Arabian Nights. Or, they just read their journals and share particularly relevant parts with one another. 4.) Is he that fussy, or was he just thrown for a loop? I don't like cold soup either, and I have no problems with an unmade bed. 5.) Perhaps-right now, he's just happy being uber-sexed William who makes jokes that confuse the inspector. Brax isn't used to a non-sexually frustrated William.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 23, 2014 8:29:00 GMT
What episode is the pic from? I don't remember this or the sailor one... As for Emily, I don't think she was dissing William at all-methinks you're projecting. Hey I said "hoping" not "dissing"! We don't know how her little assessment came out. But you don't think William/Julia are roughly equivalent to parents to her? The 3 Sailors is from The Murdoch Trap. The Fragile Sister is from Me, Myself, and Murdoch. Just curious-when does he say it in the Murdoch Trap? I'd like to watch that scene for context, but I won't sit through the entire ep again. Once was enough.
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Post by snacky on Nov 23, 2014 9:02:23 GMT
1.) I think they're going to bed together right now. 2.) I always assumed that her hair was naturally curly, and that she just pins it up. Of course in reality, it's a just a wig. 3.) I like to think that William's reading 1,001 Tales of the Arabian Nights. Or, they just read their journals and share particularly relevant parts with one another. 4.) Is he that fussy, or was he just thrown for a loop? I don't like cold soup either, and I have no problems with an unmade bed. 5.) Perhaps-right now, he's just happy being uber-sexed William who makes jokes that confuse the inspector. Brax isn't used to a non-sexually frustrated William. 1. Ouch - they might bump heads or something! 2. LOL - in the show Julia turns out to be a redhead all along after all...she's been wearing a wig since Season 2! 3. I see Julia as starting the tradition of the naughty geographical/anthropological/mythological reading...maybe as a counter to Popular Mechanics? 4. I'm trying to decide whether William is fussy or not. He is awfully neat, and he seemed rather concerned about fireplace dust. I always presumed Julia would be the undoing of his neat-freakedness, and that's part of why she's a good match for him. However the soup comment made me wonder if the writers were going to make William's pickiness one of the "marriage problems". 5. I wonder if that one attempt at a joke is going to be William's only one, lol. He was kind of cut off at the pass!
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Post by snacky on Nov 23, 2014 9:53:20 GMT
Just curious-when does he say it in the Murdoch Trap? I'd like to watch that scene for context, but I won't sit through the entire ep again. Once was enough. Aw it's not that bad! Really, you have to watch it as a Surrealist episode to appreciate it. Btw, in the first scene where William is tearing the mask off the "hanging" Julia/skeleton, after William hits it, the skeleton seems to say "I F'd you, William". So there would have been a tidbit for the non-Virgin theory: William feels he is reaping the consequences of sleeping with Julia. Just watched The Murdoch Trap for that scene and couldn't find it, but it might not be in the version I'm watching. I could swear I've seen it before it before, and it was William stalling Gillies, retelling a story from another episode. I don't think you should avoid rewatching just because of Gillies - a lot of good stuff is in that episode! *Can't find it in another version, either. But also can't find a scene where William looks like that gif. No one calls Bloupine on punking them in the 25 notes. Could that scene have been cut? Maybe CC can shed light on this since CC commented/reblogged. I could swear I actually saw this in the episode, though.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 23, 2014 10:57:24 GMT
Just curious-when does he say it in the Murdoch Trap? I'd like to watch that scene for context, but I won't sit through the entire ep again. Once was enough. Aw it's not that bad! Really, you have to watch it as a Surrealist episode to appreciate it. Btw, in the first scene where William is tearing the mask off the "hanging" Julia/skeleton, after William hits it, the skeleton seems to say "I F'd you, William". So there would have been a tidbit for the non-Virgin theory: William feels he is reaping the consequences of sleeping with Julia. Just watched The Murdoch Trap for that scene and couldn't find it, but it might not be in the version I'm watching. I could swear I've seen it before it before, and it was William stalling Gillies, retelling a story from another episode. I don't think you should avoid rewatching just because of Gillies - a lot of good stuff is in that episode! *Can't find it in another version, either. But also can't find a scene where William looks like that gif. No one calls Bloupine on punking them in the 25 notes. Could that scene have been cut? Maybe CC can shed light on this since CC commented/reblogged. I could swear I actually saw this in the episode, though. I'm thinking she may have been kidding. I like to think I would have remembered something like that, and I watched it just now, skipping for William in a cage scenes, and couldn't find it. I also read transcripts on two different sites and nothing about that line either. That, or it's been cut.
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