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Post by catymurdoch on Apr 9, 2012 21:25:20 GMT
I have read in a other message board, cant remember which one but the wife of one of the producers were saying that they had to go that route and deal with it but to hang on because they will b some great things to happen between w/j in season5. That was the husband of the author of the MM books who said that. They have seen all the S5 episodes before they air on TV. Thank u hannikan. Couldnt remember who it was but I know I was pleased when I read those comments. So hopefully all W/J shippers should be a little more happy by knowing that. I think its really nice of that lovely man to have posted such good news. I hope he didnt get into trouble for doing that because he did mentionn the best episodes to watch too. Anyway, let's wait for tomorrow night here in the UK for a great episode. I think it will b a great episode.  |
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Post by hannikan on Apr 9, 2012 21:35:00 GMT
I think he said that the best was yet to come after many were saying they were disappointed in the first few episodes. He mentioned his and Maureen's favorites of the season. She wrote the episode Staircase to Heaven, which is coming up.
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Post by catymurdoch on Apr 10, 2012 18:25:33 GMT
I think all the episodes so far in season 5 have been well done but its not the same without Julia's interaction. Regardless of shippiness, which I like I thought episode 2 for example was great because she was nearly working like a detective and what she says is always interesting. I also miss her sense of humor. Sometimes , she comes up with thoses jokes only her is laughing at and it makes me smile. I hope tonight's episode wont b too sad though and we will see some great arguments between W&J.
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Post by snacky on May 29, 2014 2:21:35 GMT
I can't imagine how traumatized W/J shippers when they saw this episode at the time it first aired. I have the benefit of seeing it in "hindsight", knowing that the Darcy Marriage wasn't the end for William and Julia. I saw the episode in the context of a lot of binge watching.
Because of this cushioning, Murdoch in Wonderland is one of my favorites. I love the emotional struggle that William goes through as he faces the consequences of his earlier "zeal" for the law and stand against police violence. The ludicrousness of the Alice in Wonderland party perfectly reflects William's own disorientation as the woman he loves is about to marry another man, and he, oh so honorably, promised not to raise an objection. How poignant to see William sitting in jail, at the mercy of laws that are unconcerned with his situation, laws that he's always upheld. How gripping to see William choose "gut justice" over the Law, and sacrifice his chance to stop Julia's marriage to make things right for a woman he grievously wronged.
Murdoch in Wonderland is a chewy episode, and there is an angsty crisis of faith (in the Law) in the nougat center of it. This is just what I love the most in Murdoch Mysteries, and I hope to get more like this.
(I'm still sorry for the vast suffering of the betrayed, shippers though. Quel horreur!)
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Dec 1, 2014 22:38:05 GMT
I was listening to "Hand of Sorrow" today by Within Temptation, and the song in itself doesn't fit with Murdoch Mysteries at all, (well it can at a stretch bit it is a big big big big big big big stretch) but one line in it did stand out to me and fitted with this episode:
He's torn between his honor and the true love of his life
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 1:53:12 GMT
IMHO, William was being torn apart by a confused vortex of feelings. Honor was in the mix. So was integrity, justice, mother love of women, fairness, moral complexity, shifting social philosophy, righteousnous, tipping of the cosmic order... Being with Julia might have repaired some of those tears, but William had to confront them on his own instead. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 18:02:24 GMT
I was listening to "Hand of Sorrow" today by Within Temptation, and the song in itself doesn't fit with Murdoch Mysteries at all, (well it can at a stretch bit it is a big big big big big big big stretch) but one line in it did stand out to me and fitted with this episode: He's torn between his honor and the true love of his life I tried to "like" this but the stupid iPad is not cooperating so I have to quote you instead. Perfect line. But oh what a heartbreaker for the fans of the time. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 6, 2014 4:51:39 GMT
Did I just see this? During the initial Giles interview: when William says he isn't in the habit of killing people he dislikes, he looks very deliberately to the left.  Does that mean William has killed someone he dislikes?  Well, if we're going to make a big deal out of that leftward glance when William promises Darcy that his relationship with Julia is in the past, then I think any strong glance to the left is up for grabs...  |
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Post by bookworm1225 on Dec 6, 2014 15:17:26 GMT
Did I just see this? During the initial Giles interview: when William says he isn't in the habit of killing people he dislikes, he looks very deliberately to the left. Does that mean William has killed someone he dislikes? Well, if we're going to make a big deal out of that leftward glance when William promises Darcy that his relationship with Julia is in the past, then I think any strong glance to the left is up for grabs... *fires up the episode and takes a look* Hmmm... so he does. Interesting... |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 6, 2014 15:45:30 GMT
Did I just see this? During the initial Giles interview: when William says he isn't in the habit of killing people he dislikes, he looks very deliberately to the left. Does that mean William has killed someone he dislikes? Well, if we're going to make a big deal out of that leftward glance when William promises Darcy that his relationship with Julia is in the past, then I think any strong glance to the left is up for grabs... *fires up the episode and takes a look* Hmmm... so he does. Interesting... Or is guiltily letting on that he has thought of killing someone he doesn't like? cough**Darcy**cough |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 6, 2014 18:08:43 GMT
*fires up the episode and takes a look* Hmmm... so he does. Interesting... Or is guiltily letting on that he has thought of killing someone he doesn't like? cough**Darcy**cough I'm sure at this stage he thinks the only way to get Julia back is with Darcy's death. As far as he was concerned the wedding was inevitable, he didn't know about Julia's letter yet so he thinks he's lost her. If it was possible to win her back he wouldn't even have thought about annulment and definitely not divorce, so yes, he could have at least considered the possibility of Darcy's death even if he wasn't planning it. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 6, 2014 19:34:16 GMT
Did I just see this? During the initial Giles interview: when William says he isn't in the habit of killing people he dislikes, he looks very deliberately to the left. Does that mean William has killed someone he dislikes? Well, if we're going to make a big deal out of that leftward glance when William promises Darcy that his relationship with Julia is in the past, then I think any strong glance to the left is up for grabs... *fires up the episode and takes a look* Hmmm... so he does. Interesting... That's a pretty strong look to the left. Think YB was trying to mess with people's minds there, or do you think he's just looking to the left because he's acting, and that's him thinking about what he's going to do next...? He probably normally does that. I just noticed it especially there. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 6, 2014 19:37:55 GMT
*fires up the episode and takes a look* Hmmm... so he does. Interesting... Or is guiltily letting on that he has thought of killing someone he doesn't like? cough**Darcy**cough LOL!!  |
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Post by snacky on Dec 6, 2014 19:56:26 GMT
Or is guiltily letting on that he has thought of killing someone he doesn't like? cough**Darcy**cough I'm sure at this stage he thinks the only way to get Julia back is with Darcy's death. As far as he was concerned the wedding was inevitable, he didn't know about Julia's letter yet so he thinks he's lost her. If it was possible to win her back he wouldn't even have thought about annulment and definitely not divorce, so yes, he could have at least considered the possibility of Darcy's death even if he wasn't planning it. Perhaps he was considering a duel with pistols at sunset! This makes me wonder why no one was using the lie detector on him... |
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Post by snacky on Dec 6, 2014 20:02:17 GMT
Or is guiltily letting on that he has thought of killing someone he doesn't like? cough**Darcy**cough I'm sure at this stage he thinks the only way to get Julia back is with Darcy's death. hmm - the question is whether he is "given" to killing people he dislikes - i.e. Giles is asking whether the deed has already been done. |
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