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Post by barbarama on Mar 25, 2014 19:26:58 GMT
Episode title as per IMDb. This title has been discussed before and I won't put any spoilers about it. All I have to say is that I'm not worried at all about it  |
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Post by lance2355 on Mar 25, 2014 21:16:36 GMT
For this post alone I had to create an account here lol. Only just found this site but have been watching Murdoch since about Season 2. Anyway, even seeing the title for the first time I am not too worried either, can't wait for the next two episodes! |
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Post by carco on Mar 25, 2014 23:08:05 GMT
I did read an episode description for this episode somewhere on-line a little while back and I'm not worried about it either. At least in terms of the title referring to Julia. But I do wonder what is in store for her (and, no doubt, William).
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Post by shangas on Mar 25, 2014 23:17:02 GMT
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
I just had a realisation.
Maybe Dr. Ogden is dead! Maybe it's because she's now...
DR. MURDOCH!
*rings wedding-bells!*
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Mar 30, 2014 13:43:27 GMT
William will need to propose in episode 17, as he wouldn't propose right after Juila's father's death.
Maybe engagement next season with a wedding at the end? But I don't know. That seems like I could be asking too much.
That is if there is a next season..I take it CBC hasn't announced anything yet...I'm not to concerned as their should be another season but a Season 3 for Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries was almost a given and then ABC has kept their mouths shut on it. So
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Post by carco on Apr 1, 2014 16:54:36 GMT
William will need to propose in episode 17, as he wouldn't propose right after Juila's father's death. Maybe engagement next season with a wedding at the end? But I don't know. That seems like I could be asking too much. That is if there is a next season..I take it CBC hasn't announced anything yet...I'm not to concerned as their should be another season but a Season 3 for Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries was almost a given and then ABC has kept their mouths shut on it. So ***Speculation/Spoilers re: "The Death of Doctor Ogden" *** Just my thoughts -- I think he will propose but not like we've seen him do it before (the imagined proposal in the morgue years back and the "for real" down on his knees mumbling proposal of a few episodes ago). This time may involve him talking from the heart. I don't think it would be lacking in taste to propose then because, although Julia's father has died, they were estranged for years. She would be saddened but I'm not sure she would be in mourning per se and it is something they knew was next in their lives. However, if something is revealed in the storyline that upsets Julia too much, that might be a problem. In the preview, William seemed to be having a valuable conversation with an elderly lady. We don't know who she is but she seems to be telling William words he needs to hear. Including if she could do it over again she would have taken a chance on love. I was surprised, in the previous episode, by William's blindness in not recognizing Julia's obvious invitation to propose but the more I watch it he seems not so much "blind" to her behaviour but nervous in her presence. I wonder about the things Leslie Garland said to Julia (in William's presence) on why he sent the letters and photos to her. Maybe hearing someone say those things hit a nerve with William. In court Julia admitted that she loved Darcy "once". Murdoch may still not fully understand even now, why Julia married Darcy and so quickly. I don't think he and Julia have ever actually talked about that. He threw it out in an argument they had last year so it bothered him. Something has unnerved him. I think he's truly got "cold feet" and is suddenly not sure of things any more. In the preview he tells her he doesn't want a "few months of happiness". No he doesn't, he wants a lifetime of happiness and for some reason he's suddenly not sure he can keep Julia for a lifetime? I am pretty certain things can be worked out in that episode. They know they love one another, they've already mentioned marriage several times over the last couple of years, Julia's ready. It may be a simple as William suddenly realizing love isn't scientific and there's no equation or formula to predict if love will last. I think a marriage would be next season (everything crossed that there IS one) or the wedding itself could even occur during the summer break and they are settled in at the start of S8 with maybe just some flashbacks to show the wedding. |
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Post by snacky on Apr 2, 2014 1:32:38 GMT
***Speculation/Spoilers re: "The Death of Doctor Ogden" *** Just my thoughts -- I think he will propose but not like we've seen him do it before (the imagined proposal in the morgue years back and the "for real" down on his knees mumbling proposal of a few episodes ago). I wonder about the things Leslie Garland said to Julia (in William's presence) on why he sent the letters and photos to her. Maybe hearing someone say those things hit a nerve with William. In court Julia admitted that she loved Darcy "once". Murdoch may still not fully understand even now, why Julia married Darcy and so quickly. I don't think he and Julia have ever actually talked about that. He threw it out in an argument they had last year so it bothered him. Something has unnerved him. I think he's truly got "cold feet" and is suddenly not sure of things any more. In the preview he tells her he doesn't want a "few months of happiness". No he doesn't, he wants a lifetime of happiness and for some reason he's suddenly not sure he can keep Julia for a lifetime? I think a marriage would be next season (everything crossed that there IS one) or the wedding itself could even occur during the summer break and they are settled in at the start of S8 with maybe just some flashbacks to show the wedding. I agree William is probably having trouble finding a meaningful angle for a proposal after years of discussing it. Apparently he still wants to get down on his knees and fulfill that Victorian "knight in shining armor" vision of love and marriage. I think Julia wants a romantic moment, too. I hope he doesn't completely give up on that. That's an interesting question about how William copes with the fact of the Darcy marriage. I think he does understand why Julia - who was verging on spinsterhood - sought to get married and didn't think William would ever propose to her. He also respected and liked Darcy (until Darcy got petty about the divorce). I doubt he questions that Julia had feelings for Darcy, and he knows he was partly responsible for that situation by not doing anything to move toward marriage in Season 3. I do think he would be a bit haunted by what happened to Darcy and whether pursuing Julia compromised his values. On the other hand, I think he came to terms with a lot of these conflicts when he prayed on whether he could marry a divorced woman. He basically concluded God is on the side of true love, and that justified his actions. I don't think he has cold feet about marriage or he's worried about losing Julia or even waiting a "lifetime" at this point. I think his remarks will probably make sense in the context of his episode. IMHO, he's just trying to get back in charge of making the proposal so Julia won't end up thinking she had to drag him into it. I'm also certain MM wouldn't have the Ship Culminating Wedding without making it into a major episode event and trying to squeeze all the audience out of it they can. But personally, I'm against a wedding any time soon. I think the frustrated romance is a major element of MM. Artificial obstacles are also annoying, though. I'm sure the writers have been aware since Season 1 that this is a matter they have to handle delicately, and I trust them to keep everyone entertained, wedding or no wedding. |
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Post by carco on Apr 3, 2014 19:41:09 GMT
Snacky said, in reply to carco "I don't think he has cold feet about marriage or he's worried about losing Julia or even waiting a "lifetime" at this point. I think his remarks will probably make sense in the context of his episode. IMHO, he's just trying to get back in charge of making the proposal so Julia won't end up thinking she had to drag him into it. I'm also certain MM wouldn't have the Ship Culminating Wedding without making it into a major episode event and trying to squeeze all the audience out of it they can. But personally, I'm against a wedding any time soon. I think the frustrated romance is a major element of MM. Artificial obstacles are also annoying, though. I'm sure the writers have been aware since Season 1 that this is a matter they have to handle delicately, and I trust them to keep everyone entertained, wedding or no wedding." *************************** (Sorry don't know how to do partial quotes yet  ) I've had another thought on possibilities for this episode....(again ***Warning: speculation, therefore, possible Spoliers*** )
What if : after Julia ran off in tears at his last proposal, Murdoch decided it's time to make changes in his life. Similar to when he handed in his badge and went to the Klondike, when Julia married. Perhaps he was going to request a leave of absence for approx. 3-6 mo and with that in mind, first applied to temporarily join a "dig" in the Badlands, Alberta (looking for dinosaur bones has always been an interest for him). So maybe he sent out a letter making the request after Julia refused him but before he receives a reply, Julia tells him why she couldn't marry him. Soon after that, he gets a positive reply to his request, paving the way for him to fulfil one of his lifelong dreams. Now he's in a predicament. At the end of Kung-Foo Crabtree, Julia turns to Wm and says "We're free" . If you noticed, he looked at her a moment and gave a modest smile and said "Yes we are." So what is he to do? That scenario would explain his apparent blindness to her overt attempts to get him to propose in "Blast of Silence" He wouldn't want to encourage her advances while he's in a quandry about how to proceed (we KNOW he overthinks everything!). In the DODO (Death of Dr Ogden) he talks with the elderly lady (maybe she is financing the "dig"? or whatever). It seems he makes his decision after speaking with her. He goes back to Julia who is standing at the water's edge (at her father's place)? He tells her all about what he had planned for himself after her refusal of his proposal and that's when we hear his say ....."I don't want happiness for a few months ...." I imagine he doesn't want to do this wonderful thing on his own, for a few months if he loses a chance to marry Julia in doing so. I assume Julia would give him a "Hey, Go!! Get it out of your system and we will marry as soon as you get back" or maybe she even says she'll go with him! They could become engaged at that time and leaves it open for a marriage next season if there is one. As for Julia's father's storyline--I'm not sure what that could be about. Maybe his fortune was a house of cards that collapsed and they are no longer rich. Or some such scenario. That would also serve to monetarily equalize Wm and Julia in a marriage. I too will be thoroughly entertained whatever they do with this story. I wasn't going to "project" to episodes ahead this time but my real-life has been very stressful the past couple of weeks, so during sleepless nights I've been trying to figure out what some things were said and dreaming up scenarios for these two people, just to try to get my mind on other things!
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Post by snacky on Apr 4, 2014 2:47:44 GMT
(Sorry don't know how to do partial quotes yet )
So maybe he sent out a letter making the request after Julia refused him but before he receives a reply, Julia tells him why she couldn't marry him. Soon after that, he gets a positive reply to his request, paving the way for him to fulfil one of his lifelong dreams. Now he's in a predicament....That scenario would explain his apparent blindness to her overt attempts to get him to propose in "Blast of Silence" He tells her all about what he had planned for himself after her refusal of his proposal and that's when we hear his say ....."I don't want happiness for a few months ...." I imagine he doesn't want to do this wonderful thing on his own, for a few months if he loses a chance to marry Julia in doing so. I assume Julia would give him a "Hey, Go!! Get it out of your system and we will marry as soon as you get back" or maybe she even says she'll go with him! They could become engaged at that time and leaves it open for a marriage next season if there is one. so during sleepless nights I've been trying to figure out what some things were said and dreaming up scenarios for these two people, just to try to get my mind on other things! It took me some time to find the quote button, too. It's the button right before the last one. But I'm too lazy to use it to address points separately, so forgive me for leaving excerpts from your comment in one long mega-quote. Your scenario is fascinating, and I think it's in character. The only thing that probably kept William sticking around for a while is curiosity about why Julia would say no. But he may have gotten some opportunity too huge to ignore. I've also been thinking that some physical separation is how the writers will postpone marriage. The few months could also refer to some ongoing situation: i.e. if they got married, they would only be together for a few months out of the year. It seems to me that Julia would be more likely than William to pursue out-of-town opportunities. George has remarked that William "isn't peripatetic": Julia, on the other hand, has a more difficult time developing her career. She's already gone off to Buffalo and Vienna. Or maybe she needs to take care of the old woman (her stepmother?) or carry on the family practice? Perhaps Julia raises the possibility of another opportunity as a way to prompt William into making a proposal before she gets away. That would be very disatisfying to me, though. It would seem manipulative on Julia's part, and I would rather William be still imagining/plotting/working his way up to the proposal he wants. It's fun cooking up scenarios! Whatever the situation, though, I hope it leaves William and Julia "on track" for marriage.  |
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Apr 4, 2014 15:15:11 GMT
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Post by fan2tvshows on Apr 6, 2014 18:46:01 GMT
A CRAZY idea crossed through my mind: not to watch the episode until the beginning of the next season.
Then I realised I was not able to do a such thing because I was too much addicted.
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Post by snacky on Apr 6, 2014 18:52:27 GMT
A CRAZY idea crossed through my mind: not to watch the episode until the beginning of the next season. Then I realised I was not able to do a such thing because I was too much addicted. lololol. It's going to be all I can do to avoid reading the twitter sing-a-long while I'm waiting for my turn. T_T My Mom can't even watch Season 7, so I have to be careful what I say to her. |
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Post by lovemondays on Apr 6, 2014 20:06:27 GMT
No way I could wait all summer to see it. I'm so bad that I'll watch a time-shift airing at 7 then watch it again at 8. I'm not kidding.
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Post by snacky on Apr 6, 2014 23:25:43 GMT
No way I could wait all summer to see it. I'm so bad that I'll watch a time-shift airing at 7 then watch it again at 8. I'm not kidding. Great TV shows are the ones that bear multiple watchings and minute analysis. I once read an interview with a popular American actor who had started to "phone in " his performances. He referred to TV shows as "toilet paper": recycled garbage to be viewed in an instant and thrown away. He seemed to feel he was throwing away his life by doing a TV show instead of appreciating his opportunity to delight audiences with a serial art form. American TV networks seem to have taken the "toilet paper" mantra to heart: they stuff their schedules with garbage reality TV, relying on "click-bait" to draw large audiences. They don't think quality scripted shows are worth the investment, and they rarely give shows with complicated plots enough time to be appreciated. When I was young the family shows often aired on Saturday and Sunday nights, starting at 7pm. Now apparently the Big Media companies that own the TV stations want people to go out to see their movies on Saturdays, and Sundays proved difficult because overruns of football games often preempted part of the show. If I were to schedule Murdoch Mysteries in the US, I would put it at 7pm on Saturday or Sunday. I think most of the MM audience would not be going out anyway, and 7pm is early enough for family viewing, while not having the same ratings pressure as "prime time" after 8pm. For Sunday, I'd only want it on a channel that doesn't air football. I'd also put it in a block with a Saturday or Sunday night movie. |
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Post by fan2tvshows on Apr 7, 2014 10:26:06 GMT
No way I could wait all summer to see it. I'm so bad that I'll watch a time-shift airing at 7 then watch it again at 8. I'm not kidding. Have a good evening! Sure you will, you will watch one of the best TV show. |
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