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Post by fan2tvshows on Apr 7, 2014 10:34:46 GMT
A CRAZY idea crossed through my mind: not to watch the episode until the beginning of the next season. Then I realised I was not able to do a such thing because I was too much addicted. lololol. It's going to be all I can do to avoid reading the twitter sing-a-long while I'm waiting for my turn. T_T My Mom can't even watch Season 7, so I have to be careful what I say to her. I must wait for my turn too and as you do I stop reading informations about the episode until I watch it. You can blackmail your mother or tease her! LOL. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 8, 2014 2:08:40 GMT
They always gotta throw in a curve ball at the end don't they? Writers are freaking sadistic creatures.
Out with the old, in with the new I guess. Or maybe he was just home sick and wanted to leave? (He's probably not dead but he's probably gone soon regardless).
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Post by snacky on Apr 8, 2014 7:04:29 GMT
Sad I will not get to watch this tonight. T_T
The torrent gods are cruel. T_T
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Post by carco on Apr 8, 2014 14:17:43 GMT
They always gotta throw in a curve ball at the end don't they? Writers are freaking sadistic creatures. Out with the old, in with the new I guess. Or maybe he was just home sick and wanted to leave? (He's probably not dead but he's probably gone soon regardless). I was thinking exactly the same thing. When is the last time we had a simple happy ending season finale? Twentieth Century Murdoch? Guess some folks need a "hook" to ensure they return next fall? Possibly, although the show is coming back it will be with budget cuts? |
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Post by murdochic on Apr 8, 2014 16:57:07 GMT
Season 2 and Season 5 had happy endings.
We haven't heard anything about the actor leaving so I really doubt Brackenreid is dead. Unless we hear the actor has left then we know S8 will see Brackenreid is alive but injured.
W/J are finally engaged. It's been a long wait to see that. I hope they are actually allowed to get married next season. The proposal was lovely. In some ways it was worth the 7 seasons wait.
Poor Julia having to perform the postmortem on her own father. We finally get to see him but only in Julia's imagination/flashback. At least Julia is at peace with it all.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 8, 2014 17:10:16 GMT
I don't get why they think they need a hook. The engagement was enough for most fans!! The only reason to add such gratuitous violence (other than for shock value) and ruin the long awaited for engagement is if they are setting up the story arc that sees Brax leave the constabulary. Hence his comment about being too old for this malarkey. Craig might not leave the show till the end of S8 or maybe not at all, but if he doesn't, he's probably not going to be a series regular at some point. :/ And Carco, there are always budget cuts, which is strange considering Harper is such a big fan. You'd think he'd want to throw in more money not less, just take a little out of our health care budget, no biggie.  |
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Post by murdochic on Apr 8, 2014 17:14:02 GMT
MM always have to make W/J's happy times complicated. It's part of the show. I expect their wedding will have some kind of drama. And probably the lead up to it. They're sure of what they want so I don't think the writers can realistically halt their relationship again. The ending just allowed for a bit of drama.
I honestly don't think Brackenreid is dead. Just badly beaten up. I expect him and all the characters back for S8.
Budget cuts will probably just mean less episodes or less stunts. Not less cast.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 8, 2014 17:19:15 GMT
Season 2 and Season 5 had happy endings. We haven't heard anything about the actor leaving so I really doubt Brackenreid is dead. Unless we hear the actor has left then we know S8 will see Brackenreid is alive but injured. W/J are finally engaged. It's been a long wait to see that. I hope they are actually allowed to get married next season. The proposal was lovely. In some ways it was worth the 7 seasons wait. Poor Julia having to perform the postmortem on her own father. We finally get to see him but only in Julia's imagination/flashback. At least Julia is at peace with it all. Technically S1 did too. But they weren't an item then so no one really cares. Craig is coming back. There was some fitness video where he said as much. I'm really hopeful it will be episode 100 but somehow I doubt it. I just don't want to wait until the end of the season!! I think she had to be or the proposal couldn't have happened when it did. Thank goodness her hallucinations were so helpful! |
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Post by murdochic on Apr 8, 2014 17:26:41 GMT
Ah there's our answer. Brackenreid will be fine after he recovers from his beatings.
I have a feeling they'll throw plenty of drama at the wedding preparations and we'll have to wait until later in S8 for them to get married. But I'm feeling quite confident they'll finally be allowed to. I reckon George/Emily will be the on/off romance next season.
The hallucinations also helped us to finally understand a bit more about Julia and her family. Shame Ruby probably won't be back. Unless she will be as a threat to G/E.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 8, 2014 17:39:34 GMT
Ah there's our answer. Brackenreid will be fine after he recovers from his beatings. I have a feeling they'll throw plenty of drama at the wedding preparations and we'll have to wait until later in S8 for them to get married. But I'm feeling quite confident they'll finally be allowed to. I reckon George/Emily will be the on/off romance next season. The hallucinations also helped us to finally understand a bit more about Julia and her family. Shame Ruby probably won't be back. Unless she will be as a threat to G/E. And considering there is like a 3-5 month gap between seasons, it'll be like it never happened. They could still throw lots of drama in within the first 3 episodes right? And then there can be a mystery at the church in episode 4, like George loses the wedding rings, and then they figure out that Leslie stole them and then Julia and Murdoch can go beat the crap out of him together and then get married.  |
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Post by snacky on Apr 8, 2014 20:29:35 GMT
And Carco, there are always budget cuts, which is strange considering Harper is such a big fan. You'd think he'd want to throw in more money not less, just take a little out of our health care budget, no biggie. I'm trying not to be pessimistic. I think MM only winds up happily if there's serious concern that the show won't be renewed. In that light, a cliffhanger is a good sign. I don't think Brackenreid would die unless the actor was trying to depart for other projects or if there was some high stakes salary negotiations going on: from the interview Randomkiwibirds posted, I don't think either is the case. The writers just didn't want viewers to get complacent: "Engagement mission accomplished - show's over." They pulled out the drama to show we're also emotionally invested in other characters of the show. Regarding the wedding: I hope it's at the end of the season - or even another cliffhanger that spans into Season 9. As much as I love Jilliam, I'm very skeptical that the show will survive much longer after the wedding. MM really is centered on the character of William Murdoch: if he reaches the end of his growth arc, that's it. Would you rather have the ship justified or for MM to go on as long as it can be maintained as a quality show? It occurs to me that there is a possible delay tactic set up here that's almost too cheesy to mention: what if Brackenreid dreamed the whole proposal while he was unconscious? After, all Julia did put the question into his mind when she tried to find out why William hadn't proposed yet in Kung Fu Crabtree.... |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 8, 2014 20:45:14 GMT
Lol, well that depends on your definition of 'quality'. I won't put all the blame on CBC since S5 was very hit and miss too, but imo the quality hasn't been up to par these last few seasons as it is. So I personally would rather the show finished next season (provided the marriage happens in the first half) than go on forever.
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Post by barbarama on Apr 8, 2014 20:50:53 GMT
The episode was bittersweet, tender, and very shocking!!!! Kudos to the writers because I didn't expect at all that cliffhanger and was shocked by that scene. But Brackenreid is a rock and will be fine I'm sure.
As for the investigation(s); I loved George and Brackenreid working together again and using their wonderful brains (and chalkboard) to solve this case. For Julia's dad, I found that the scenes where she talks to him were wonderful, you can understand a lot regarding their relationship watching them (I don't know who had the idea of doing this or if it was a collective thinking but I really loved it).
Finally I'm soooo happy that William & Julia are engaged and can move on with their life together and I hope for a wedding to happen very quick - …cough cough…100th episode - (or at least as soon as Brackenreid is healthy again).
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Post by snacky on Apr 8, 2014 21:53:18 GMT
That was a great episode. I predicted several aspects of it, too: - Julia's father dying, not murder ( murdochmysteriesfans.proboards.com/post/7879/thread ) - William being conflicted over the social issues in his relationship with Julia - Julia would have to ask William first (or ask him to ask, lol). I think there should have been some direct reference to whatever William has been considering, though. The social conflict was clear when Julia had the choice between marrying a high class doctor or struggling Catholic eternal-Detective Murdoch. However, what's the alternative life that William is considering for Julia now? She was willing to go through the scandal of divorce for him, and when she said Emily was the only one she could confide in, it suggested she's already somewhat ostracized in "better" society. I don't see any other suitors breaking her door down. I buy that William had issues on his mind, I just think the viewers needed some exposition to shore it up. (Or "lexposition" - exposition through legal procedure, akin to the "sexposition" of Game of Thrones). I thoroughly loved Brackenreid's willingness to cross over into modern police work with his "chart" and eagerness to work some puzzles. It seemed like he was going through a midlife crisis and was reinvigorated by a second wind. But the consequences of the first wind were not yet finished with him! D: While I don't believe he's dead, he may be quite disabled. I predict that William will become "Acting Inspector" while Brackenreid is recovering. Pitting modern "intellectual" police work against the rising violence of gang warfare will be very interesting. |
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Post by snacky on Apr 8, 2014 22:14:04 GMT
Lol, well that depends on your definition of 'quality'. I won't put all the blame on CBC since S5 was very hit and miss too, but imo the quality hasn't been up to par these last few seasons as it is. So I personally would rather the show finished next season (provided the marriage happens in the first half) than go on forever. When I compare the first season, the writing improved even in the Julia-light seasons, and the episodes became more polished. MM managed to maintain both over-arching continuity while delivering good self-contained episodes. I think Jilliam has especially become better written over the years: no more awkward cliches like "I want to be held" or fan-service commentary from George. I though the scene at the end of "The Spy who came Up" seemed tacked on, but that was later explained by Yannick running off to film that Republic of Doyle ep. For people who have been watching a long time, I suppose they know "the formula" backwards and forward and can get easily bored by episodes. While I've seen all the episodes several times, I haven't been watching MM for that long, so it still seems fresh to me. Also, I'm not just watching for Jilliam, so it would suck for me if the wrap up for one particular segment of fans killed off MM for everyone else. |
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