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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 9, 2014 3:54:23 GMT
OMG that comment! xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Sure why not? Otherwise the only reason it was there was as a plot device.  |
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Post by snacky on Apr 9, 2014 4:41:58 GMT
And who exactly is going to pay for that huh? Unless William can return/exchange a ring he purchased 4 years ago, I don't see how. Sure it's got bad memories associated with it but it's also a reminder of everything they have managed to overcome. As William so elegantly put it, "Together we are stronger than anyone." Agree with the escapes. He must have had outside help yet they never seemed to look into that...poor police work all around. He's basically Joker with unlimited funds (or Batman if he went crazy). Going to be forever obsessed with the guy who can best him. Why does Gillies have infinite resources anyway? Who are his parents? Perhaps they are criminal masterminds as well? Regarding the ring - I think it was inherently valuable and could have been traded in. I still think it's bad luck. But at this point ANY ring is a symbol of everything they've managed to overcome. I need a good idea for a +1 Brackenreid poster. Attachments:
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 9, 2014 4:52:12 GMT
And who exactly is going to pay for that huh? Unless William can return/exchange a ring he purchased 4 years ago, I don't see how. Sure it's got bad memories associated with it but it's also a reminder of everything they have managed to overcome. As William so elegantly put it, "Together we are stronger than anyone." Agree with the escapes. He must have had outside help yet they never seemed to look into that...poor police work all around. He's basically Joker with unlimited funds (or Batman if he went crazy). Going to be forever obsessed with the guy who can best him. Why does Gillies have infinite resources anyway? Who are his parents? Perhaps they are criminal masterminds as well? Regarding the ring - I think it was inherently valuable and could have been traded in. I still think it's bad luck. But at this point ANY ring is a symbol of everything they've managed to overcome. I need a good idea for a +1 Brackenreid poster. Since they have never been mentioned or interrogated (to find their son after his many escapes), I came to the conclusion that they are dead and left him their entire fortune. (Batman again?) No, I don't think he killed them. Pretty sure that professor was his first victim and that's when he got the taste for it. Well I don't think they are superstitious types so they will be keeping it. I don't know what that means. |
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Post by snacky on Apr 9, 2014 4:55:05 GMT
Since they have never been mentioned or interrogated (to find their son after his many escapes), I came to the conclusion that they are dead and left him their entire fortune. (Batman again?) No, I don't think he killed them. Pretty sure that professor was his first victim and that's when he got the taste for it. Well I don't think they are superstitious types so they will be keeping it. I don't know what that means. Yeah, I believe they are dead, too. But it might be interesting if Gillies inherited some of his evil. Regarding Brackenreid - I would like to make some fan art in support of him remaining in the land of the living. Any suggestions? |
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Post by jj1 on Apr 9, 2014 7:41:14 GMT
Myself you can't let him die we in the UK see him as a important part of the show and I also know that the 300-000 people who what the show on a cable network ALIBI will be up in arms please remember this is a joint adventure with alibi it's getting to the point that the British fans don't count anymore which is a big let down for me we always had a bit of a say in things not anymore maybe it's time to not watch anymore if the brackenreid issue is let's kill him off
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Post by snacky on Apr 9, 2014 7:44:52 GMT
Myself you can't let him die we in the UK see him as a important part of the show I seriously doubt Brackenreid will die - unless Thomas Craig decides to rediscover his calling for the Theater. |
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Post by petruck on Apr 9, 2014 10:21:54 GMT
Actually the first time he escaped it was through swapping his death sentence with a guard who was dying, the widow got money for it. Murdoch solved that case. The second time he escaped it was on the train with them all watching and the reason he was on the train was because they thought the hangman had been bought, but as it turned out it was Gillies setting it all up to look that way so that he could be on the train. I don't think there was another escape other than those?  |
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Post by murdochic on Apr 9, 2014 10:27:00 GMT
Myself you can't let him die we in the UK see him as a important part of the show I seriously doubt Brackenreid will die - unless Thomas Craig decides to rediscover his calling for the Theater. CosmicCavalcade saw a video in which the actor basically confirmed he will be back for S8. They aren't killing Brackenreid off. He is obviously injured, but he'll still be on the show. I'm sure he'll make a good recovery. It's not like he was stabbed or shot. You can survive and recover from a beating more easily. I'm not worried. |
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Post by petruck on Apr 9, 2014 10:41:53 GMT
Another speculation, but am I the only one that though the scene with George and the Janitor, (Mr Carver?) a foreshadowing?
"You're clearly a very intellectual man, I can't help wondering if there is a position out there that can better utilize that cleverness."
Does that sound familiar? A highly intelligent man, who likes to solve puzzles?
So I have a theory, complete speculation and possibly "absolute bollocks", but what if Brackenried is not dead, badly injured possibly left with a permanent limp having to use a cane? He'd still manage the station house, but as Chief Constable/Inspector? (we have not seen Giles this entire season, so I'm thinking that spot is open.)
The fact that Brackenried used the words "My best man" and William's new wardrobe was thrown in there for a reason and I think that is his promotion to Inspector, which would then elevate George to Detective, and perhaps bring Mr. Carver in as a constable, perhaps one of the first mixed heritage policemen in Canada?
To be honest if I was writing the show that's the way I would go. The show is all about pushing the boundaries in a time when it was unacceptable to do just about anything if you were not a WASP and male. We have already seen them push that many times in the show with religion, and gender, and it's often touched on race. With the Irish being responsible for Brackenried's near death, who better to stir that lot into a frenzy than a new constable, that is neither Catholic, Irish or Caucasian?
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Post by petruck on Apr 9, 2014 10:51:02 GMT
Oh and BTW, it's the same ring, I rewound and zoomed when she was searching for a pulse, ('*sigh* what can I say it's my day off and I am completely addicted to MM!)
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Post by snacky on Apr 9, 2014 15:48:01 GMT
Actually the first time he escaped it was through swapping his death sentence with a guard who was dying, the widow got money for it. Murdoch solved that case. The second time he escaped it was on the train with them all watching and the reason he was on the train was because they thought the hangman had been bought, but as it turned out it was Gillies setting it all up to look that way so that he could be on the train. I don't think there was another escape other than those? There was another escape after Toyland where the prison carriage went off a bridge. |
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Post by snacky on Apr 9, 2014 15:52:41 GMT
To be honest if I was writing the show that's the way I would go. The show is all about pushing the boundaries in a time when it was unacceptable to do just about anything if you were not a WASP and male. We have already seen them push that many times in the show with religion, and gender, and it's often touched on race. With the Irish being responsible for Brackenried's near death, who better to stir that lot into a frenzy than a new constable, that is neither Catholic, Irish or Caucasian? I hope we do see Mr. Carver again! But I doubt that moment was foreshadowing. It seemed more like one of those in-joke moments where a person in the past doesn't understand the future potential of something - for instance when William can't imagine coffee will ever catch on. Mr. Carver would be making millions as a game designer today. But it's also ironic that William is getting paid to solve puzzles, and Brackenreid was starting to go in that direction himself. |
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Post by snacky on Apr 9, 2014 15:54:19 GMT
Oh and BTW, it's the same ring, I rewound and zoomed when she was searching for a pulse, ('*sigh* what can I say it's my day off and I am completely addicted to MM!) I can imagine some really romantic/sexy scenes regarding how she finally got the ring. |
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Post by carco on Apr 9, 2014 17:57:39 GMT
Filming starts in May, so it shouldn't be too hard to spy on whether Thomas Craig is there. Point of irritation: Mr. William "you-would-have-looked-at-the-letter-if-I-weren't-here-to-provide-moral-discipline" Murdoch snuck into a house and went rifling through a woman's private drawers on mere suspicion! I call hypocrite! In the S7 Discussion page, I posted a link to an article where they spoke with Peter Mitchell (showrunner) about Season 8 and about this episode. there is quite a bit mentioned about Thomas Craig/ Mr. B ............Very interesting ! for the record, William didn't sneak into Caroline's house, he was in Julia's father's house. He found the book with letters and the portrait photo. He then spoke with Caroline and showed her the picture and she asked if she could keep it. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 9, 2014 19:08:11 GMT
That article mentions that they will be doing something with Butch Cassidy...I think The Pinkertons were after his gang quite a bit back then. This talk of racial prejudice in police work has made me think of Jimmy from S2's Werewolves. George gave him a contact with The Pinkertons (who were known to hire women even). I wonder if we'll be seeing Jimmy again? carco, while Julia was having tea with her, William was looking for the syringe by rifling through her drawers. Later he finds the photo in Julia's father's (what was his name anyway) house and gives it to her. |
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