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Post by snacky on Jun 8, 2014 4:48:46 GMT
I see you shall be wearing the Gothic Nurse costume to the Victorian Ball.
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Post by fbi on Dec 25, 2014 15:33:42 GMT
Please where can I download this episode? Thanks for your advice
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Post by lizmc on Jun 19, 2015 0:46:56 GMT
This is the one replayed by the CBC tonight. I'd forgotten how powerful it was.....when I think of it, I think of Brackenreid's beating and the engagement, but its handling of the right to die debate was very sensitive and well presented. It makes me wish we'd met the senior Dr. Ogden earlier.....I would have loved to see him and Julia butt heads....Then there was another future reference, referring to the puzzlers as gamers.....
I'm so glad the CBC is continuing with their replays.......it helps with the withdrawal symptoms.......
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Post by lea on Sept 21, 2015 2:56:53 GMT
1. I am very glad to have this episode! I always like getting to know more about Julia's life before William.
2. Julia must have known William would have tried to talk her out of the postmortem when she hung up on him.
3. From the beginning Julia was definitely guilty about not being there sooner.
4. It's nice that they mentioned Ruby. We'll probably never have her back on the show but it's wonderful to have a mention of her.
5. I wonder what exactly William was doubting when he asked Caroline if she'd do it again. I certainly don't think he'd be doubting his love for Julia, but perhaps the fear of Julia regretting marrying him rather than someone who would be considered a "smart" choice.
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Post by Oigirl on Sept 21, 2015 18:44:06 GMT
Ah yes, William's 3rd bro hug with George lol. I have to say Yannick played it differently here, unlike earlier seasons where William appeared startled, it seemed expected and almost welcomed this time. And nicely contrasting with the terrible discovery outside a few minutes later.
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Post by snacky on Sept 22, 2015 5:31:07 GMT
5. I wonder what exactly William was doubting when he asked Caroline if she'd do it again. I certainly don't think he'd be doubting his love for Julia, but perhaps the fear of Julia regretting marrying him rather than someone who would be considered a "smart" choice. That scene is mysterious to me, too. Or maybe he was thinking of Julia's original choice to marry Darcy. The writers sure don't give us many clues as to what William is thinking.
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Post by Hodge on Sept 22, 2015 6:46:23 GMT
5. I wonder what exactly William was doubting when he asked Caroline if she'd do it again. I certainly don't think he'd be doubting his love for Julia, but perhaps the fear of Julia regretting marrying him rather than someone who would be considered a "smart" choice. That scene is mysterious to me, too. Or maybe he was thinking of Julia's original choice to marry Darcy. The writers sure don't give us many clues as to what William is thinking. Darcy was ultimately the "smart" choice, but obviously the wrong choice. I think William felt Caroline had made the wrong choice and sacrificed a life of happiness, he was confirming that she felt the same way. Caroline confirmed that she would choose love which was what Julia had ultimately done. I suspect he was hoping that Julia hadn't made another mistake in choosing him. But this of course is conjecture as we never know what William is thinking ... except for that scene in Buffalo Shuffle when Julia said they were looking at her career coming to a screeching halt if the samples were normal....
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Post by snacky on Sept 23, 2015 7:20:11 GMT
I suspect he was hoping that Julia hadn't made another mistake in choosing him. The baffling thing is...what would that mistake be? Where did William think dating Julia for years would lead? He knew that Julia's proper marriage to Darcy didn't work out: Julia had already chosen an alternative. Julia had accepted his proposal in spirit during Season 6 and had even made a "modest proposal" to live in sin with William. William was surprised when Julia turned down his proposal in The Murdoch Sting (just noticed the double entendre in that title). He had expected Julia to say yes then, without concern that Julia may be better off without him. There just doesn't seem to be any basis for second thoughts regarding marrying for love.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 23, 2015 10:02:15 GMT
I suspect he was hoping that Julia hadn't made another mistake in choosing him. The baffling thing is...what would that mistake be? Where did William think dating Julia for years would lead? He knew that Julia's proper marriage to Darcy didn't work out: Julia had already chosen an alternative. Julia had accepted his proposal in spirit during Season 6 and had even made a "modest proposal" to live in sin with William. William was surprised when Julia turned down his proposal in The Murdoch Sting (just noticed the double entendre in that title). He had expected Julia to say yes then, without concern that Julia may be better off without him. There just doesn't seem to be any basis for second thoughts regarding marrying for love. Perhaps William was worried that Julia was having second thoughts about marrying at all, and not just him? I still think that he was wondering that while Julia was perhaps happy to live in sin, perhaps she didn't want to marry at all? Maybe he was wondering that maybe she wanted to wait to marry, and when he went out to meet her at the lakeshore, I still suspect that he was about to deliver an ultimatum, that he wanted to marry soon, and that he was tired of waiting for her when she surprised him with an invitation to propose, cutting him off-sensing his weariness. I don't think he was doubting that she loved him, but for William, having a mistress wasn't going to cut it-he wanted it all-or nothing. Plus, the poor guy had exercised biblical patience at this point, and I think he needed to know one way or another. IMO, season 7 William is tired of the game, and his sexual frustration is quite evident. I think early seasons W&J have at times given off the impression that they have indeed gone all the way, but in season 7, William is evidently frustrated, and this leads a lot of credence to the virgin theory for me. I think that if Julia had actually deferred on his proposal again, he was done for good. In short, I don't think it was fear so much as it was weariness-he'd taken all he could take of this game.
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 16, 2016 15:54:58 GMT
I am re-reading Vices of My Blood in for Episode 915, House of Industry, and have come across another little anomaly. In this episode Julia's father is Lionel Ogden and in the book Julia introduces her father to William as Uzziel Ogden. There seem to be several interesting differences between the books and the series here:
1) The name Lionel vs Uzziel. I can understand the writers choosing a more common name. Not even sure how to pronounce Uzziel and it definitely does not inspire thoughts of a secret love life.
2) William meets Julia's father and works with him vs not.
3) Julia's father supports and participates in her work vs minimal to no presence in her life.
I fully appreciate that Julia in the series is an amalgamation of Julia and Amy from the books. The consolidation of characters makes sense for the series but I have always had this nagging question of "where is Julia's father?"
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Post by Hodge on Jan 16, 2016 22:25:11 GMT
I am re-reading Vices of My Blood in for Episode 915, House of Industry, and have come across another little anomaly. In this episode Julia's father is Lionel Ogden and in the book Julia introduces her father to William as Uzziel Ogden. There seem to be several interesting differences between the books and the series here:
1) The name Lionel vs Uzziel. I can understand the writers choosing a more common name. Not even sure how to pronounce Uzziel and it definitely does not inspire thoughts of a secret love life.
2) William meets Julia's father and works with him vs not.
3) Julia's father supports and participates in her work vs minimal to no presence in her life.
I fully appreciate that Julia in the series is an amalgamation of Julia and Amy from the books. The consolidation of characters makes sense for the series but I have always had this nagging question of "where is Julia's father?"
I'm sorry they never introduced him before he died and we only got to see him as a 'ghost'. He looked like he'd be an interesting character and the tension between he and Julia would have been good to see instead of just alluded to.
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Post by macmurrough on Oct 21, 2018 9:40:51 GMT
I loved this episode for a lot of reasons; it was a terrific way to end the season, the writing was spot on and all of the characters were spectacular. However, this episode helped pinpoint a problem I've been having during this binge-rewatch, one that's been clinking around in my head since the very first time I watched Rich Boy, Poor Boy and that problem is Mrs. Brackenreid.
There are some strong performances on this show and this finale showed Helene at her absolute best. There's something about her vibe that instantly sells me on whatever emotion she's going for. When she cries at the end for her father, it breaks my heart and when she tearfully accepts William's proposal, all those pieces are mended once more. Yannick himself has drawn me to the edge of my emotional seat on numerous occasions, especially as I'm a sucker for a man who can cry on command. Jonny as George plays his affable role with aplomb but conveys emotion with his eyes and demeanor so well that he doesn't have to say a word. Even despite the (very undeserved) dislike Dr. Grace inspires, Georgina breathes life into the coroner and I missed her well after her premature departure. Thomas Craig also does a great job.
However, I find this cast can easily outstrip day players and supporting roles and I think that's what happens with Margaret. I think back to RBPB, recalling the scene where she finds out Brackenreid hasn't found their son and it's almost painful to watch. To be fair, I think the acting is ok and it would probably fit in just fine on some other show but we're talking about a show where on numerous occasions the leads have carried scenes along with merely facial expressions alone, "fine" just doesn't cut it.
A couple of episodes before this, Mrs. B has a knife held to her throat and she looks, at best, mildly surprised. Which wouldn't be so bad, I guess, if, two seconds before she hadn't walked in and, in what seemed to be an act of stage blocking so obvious it's akin to nearly breaking the 4th wall, takes a step or two sideways to be in position for it to happen. Now that could easily not be her fault or, at the very least, she shares blame with a bunch of other people on set that day. But she has a way of bringing me out of the story in general. When actors are great, I can completely surrender to them; I can effortlessly erase the line between Yannick and William or Helene and Julia and give myself over to the moment.
Anyway, this wasn't meant to disparage anyone. I just noticed how powerful this episode was with such poignant emotion that it just got me to thinking. Loved this finale so much that and I can't wait to start season 8 again!
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