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Post by snacky on Apr 12, 2014 22:13:46 GMT
Have you seen/do you know about the alternate ending to S3? If you haven't I highly suggest checking it out on YT.  Still haven't seen that gem. Sharknado I mean. But I heard all about it. I should make it known that I'm not a huge TNG fan and don't know many of the actors names. I mean I like it but sometimes the philosophical bits drag on for too long and I fall asleep. Plus the aliens seriously freaked me out as a kid. I did see the alt ending of S3! I always wondered if it was some sort of a fake spread by fans or mischievious MM crew. For the sake of drama, though, I'm glad Julia was on that train. Let William suffer! XD I haven't actually seen Sharknado, either (didn't have that cable channel at the time): but it's largely due to Wil Wheaton that everyone has heard of it. I haven't seen TNG since it originally aired either, but it's still lingers in the pop culture air here. Some guy who wrote a review of well-hidden TV shows (including MM) brought TNG up in some negative way. But upon thinking about it, I realized TNG actually had some stuff in common with MM: adventure while keeping the violence at a "family-friendly" level, and protagonists that were good people who thought about the moral implications of their actions. Interestingly, it's one of the few shows that did well in the Friday night "death slot". Other sci fi shows (X-Files and Stargate) also did well there. Yet apparently just being Sci Fi isn't enough - Dollhouse and Fringe died there. |
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Post by snacky on Apr 12, 2014 22:18:31 GMT
There are MM tv movies...but they're based on the books which are completely different to the show. I.e. dark and realistic. Reminds me of Murdoch running after Pendrick in his electric car! xD I've been trying to get those movies from my public library. I didn't really like the books that much, though. Perhaps not enough gadgets... I love that retro-futuristic electric car! That reminds me, for the last few years MM has been opening with huge cinematic episodes - the Yukon, the airplane, the ship-tanic. I wonder how they can top that. For the movie, they might need a zeppelin chase. Or possibly a moon rocket. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 12, 2014 22:49:07 GMT
I haven't seen TNG since it originally aired either, but it's still lingers in the pop culture air here. Some guy who wrote a review of well-hidden TV shows (including MM) brought TNG up in some negative way. But upon thinking about it, I realized TNG actually had some stuff in common with MM: adventure while keeping the violence at a "family-friendly" level, and protagonists that were good people who thought about the moral implications of their actions. Interestingly, it's one of the few shows that did well in the Friday night "death slot". Other sci fi shows (X-Files and Stargate) also did well there. Yet apparently just being Sci Fi isn't enough - Dollhouse and Fringe died there. I tried to watch it again recently but apparently it still puts me to sleep.  Dollhouse was cool! But they shouldn't have shown the first epitaph episode at the end of the first season. It gave too much away I thought. Fringe is my number two fave show! I actually think it has a lot of common elements with MM. Which is probably why I like it so much. But your gross out tolerance has to be a lot higher. Never got into Firefly for some reason. It has a bunch of 'good' elements but somehow I just found it repetitive and boring. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 12, 2014 22:57:18 GMT
There are MM tv movies...but they're based on the books which are completely different to the show. I.e. dark and realistic. Reminds me of Murdoch running after Pendrick in his electric car! xD I've been trying to get those movies from my public library. I didn't really like the books that much, though. Perhaps not enough gadgets... I love that retro-futuristic electric car! That reminds me, for the last few years MM has been opening with huge cinematic episodes - the Yukon, the airplane, the ship-tanic. I wonder how they can top that. For the movie, they might need a zeppelin chase. Or possibly a moon rocket. I saw the movies and THEN tried to read the books which was probably a mistake. Never even finished chapter 1 of the first book! Should give it another go someday. But they aren't really my cup of tea so maybe not. Well you can thank Mr. Prop Monkey for that and all the cool steam punk inventions on the show. It's supposedly going to be an epic wild west two parter with Butch Cassidy and the gang. So I guess there will be a crazy western shoot out at the end but Murdoch will devise something to easily take them out. Wait, that sounds like the ending to S2! :/ What's a moon rocket? |
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Post by snacky on Apr 12, 2014 23:08:54 GMT
Dollhouse was cool! But they shouldn't have shown the first epitaph episode at the end of the first season. It gave too much away I thought. Fringe is my number two fave show! I actually think it has a lot of common elements with MM. Which is probably why I like it so much. But your gross out tolerance has to be a lot higher. Never got into Firefly for some reason. It has a bunch of 'good' elements but somehow I just found it repetitive and boring. IMHO, MM is stylistically and thematically closer to Firefly than Fringe. Firefly didn't get enough stories behind it to foster addiction. My gross-out tolerance is certainly within the Fringe range. I must sound like a real prude with all my "family friendly" invocations. But it's not because I'm one of those Moms determined to ban video games. There's some secret ingredient in shows that I find addictive, and I noticed that they tend to also be defined as "family friendly". Just before I started to watch MM, I was talking to a friend about how I didn't watch TV as an "addict" anymore. I still thought of certain shows as well-written or having excellent performances - like "House" or "The Good Wife". But I didn't watch all their episodes in marathon mode, over-and-over-again, or find them worthy of endless forum comments. Science fiction wasn't the common element either: I liked Lost and Fringe, but I wasn't addicted to them: I could easily miss an episode from week to week. The shows that attracted me and really made me think had a bit of a philosophical quality to them, and perhaps also an idealistic (almost symbolic) quality to them. I guess these tend to cross over into "family friendly" style shows. I wouldn't particularly classify The X-Files as a family-friendly show, but I did find that addicting. I guess a credible ship arc also helps. But Fringe should have fit both those criteria, so I don't know. Alias - also a J.J. Abrams joint - more addictive than Lost or Fringe (to me). |
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Post by snacky on Apr 12, 2014 23:16:56 GMT
It's supposedly going to be an epic wild west two parter with Butch Cassidy and the gang. So I guess there will be a crazy western shoot out at the end but Murdoch will devise something to easily take them out. Wait, that sounds like the ending to S2! :/ What's a moon rocket? Oh that episode has been chosen as the lead-in all ready? I guess I have some train robberies and stage coach chases to look forward to, then. Let's see what happens when Yannick directs a Western.  Rockets are great steampunk or chrome-futurism props. By moon rocket, I just mean one of those fancy ones with tail-fins that you see on the cover of old sci fi pulp magazines. In 1902, the first science fiction movie shows a rocket to the moon. I'm not sure what MM can do with rockets, but they look cool. On Brisco County Jr, a rocket was used on a train track to catch up with a steam train. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 12, 2014 23:20:42 GMT
Dollhouse was cool! But they shouldn't have shown the first epitaph episode at the end of the first season. It gave too much away I thought. Fringe is my number two fave show! I actually think it has a lot of common elements with MM. Which is probably why I like it so much. But your gross out tolerance has to be a lot higher. Never got into Firefly for some reason. It has a bunch of 'good' elements but somehow I just found it repetitive and boring. IMHO, MM is stylistically and thematically closer to Firefly than Fringe. Firefly didn't get enough stories behind it to foster addiction. My gross-out tolerance is certainly within the Fringe range. I must sound like a real prude with all my "family friendly" invocations. But it's not because I'm one of those Moms determined to ban video games. There's some secret ingredient in shows that I find addictive, and I noticed that they tend to also be defined as "family friendly". Just before I started to watch MM, I was talking to a friend about how I didn't watch TV as an "addict" anymore. I still thought of certain shows as well-written or having excellent performances - like "House" or "The Good Wife". But I didn't watch all their episodes in marathon mode, over-and-over-again, or find them worthy of endless forum comments. Science fiction wasn't the common element either: I liked Lost and Fringe, but I wasn't addicted to them: I could easily miss an episode from week to week. The shows that attracted me and really made me think had a bit of a philosophical quality to them, and perhaps also an idealistic (almost symbolic) quality to them. I guess these tend to cross over into "family friendly" style shows. I wouldn't particularly classify The X-Files as a family-friendly show, but I did find that addicting. I guess a credible ship arc also helps. But Fringe should have fit both those criteria, so I don't know. Alias - also a J.J. Abrams joint - more addictive than Lost or Fringe (to me). Yeah FF does have more of that mom and pop feel to it and it had humour and mystery...but it didn't seem to have enough characters that I cared about and got emotionally invested in. Probably it's just as you say and it's cuz it got cancelled too early on for that to happen. But technically it had as many eps as a season of MM and it just didn't pull me in the same way. Then again I wasn't addicted to the first season of MM either. So I'm not sure I have a point here or if I'm just rambling. Never watched Lost, never wanted to after I heard about the ending. Alias is probably the single most addictive show on the planet! Those writers are demented souls! I still have more trouble following those story lines than I ever did with Fringe and there was only one universe to deal with! xD |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 12, 2014 23:29:11 GMT
It's supposedly going to be an epic wild west two parter with Butch Cassidy and the gang. So I guess there will be a crazy western shoot out at the end but Murdoch will devise something to easily take them out. Wait, that sounds like the ending to S2! :/ What's a moon rocket? Oh that episode has been chosen as the lead-in all ready? I guess I have some train robberies and stage coach chases to look forward to, then. Let's see what happens when Yannick directs a Western. Rockets are great steampunk or chrome-futurism props. By moon rocket, I just mean one of those fancy ones with tail-fins that you see on the cover of old sci fi pulp magazines. In 1902, the first science fiction movie shows a rocket to the moon. I'm not sure what MM can do with rockets, but they look cool. On Brisco County Jr, a rocket was used on a train track to catch up with a steam train. Supposedly, according to Mitchell. I think one of the first 'full' length movies was a train robbery heist gone wrong and I think it also came out in 1902 or it could be 1904. So I could definitely see them doing something along those lines. Yeah the 'rocket' is a toy prop in that so it might be a bit hard to realistically conceive of something more epic for the show. But if anyone can make it, it's Murdoch or Pendrick (and Prop Monkey). |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 12, 2014 23:47:40 GMT
Oh and also, just because they plan to air the western first doesn't mean they are shooting it first. Yannick always directs the 3rd-6th ep of a season. They film that one first before his shooting schedule becomes too hectic.
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Post by snacky on Apr 12, 2014 23:53:31 GMT
Never watched Lost, never wanted to after I heard about the ending. Alias is probably the single most addictive show on the planet! Those writers are demented souls! I still have more trouble following those story lines than I ever did with Fringe and there was only one universe to deal with! xD I went to school with J.J. Abrams, was in the "other section" of a class he was in at the same time, and never met him. D: |
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Post by snacky on Apr 12, 2014 23:55:04 GMT
Supposedly, according to Mitchell. I think one of the first 'full' length movies was a train robbery heist gone wrong and I think it also came out in 1902 or it could be 1904. So I could definitely see them doing something along those lines. Yeah the 'rocket' is a toy prop in that so it might be a bit hard to realistically conceive of something more epic for the show. But if anyone can make it, it's Murdoch or Pendrick (and Prop Monkey). I wonder if William is on the train? Sounds exciting! Prop Monkey made a Steam Man. I have faith. |
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Post by shangas on Apr 13, 2014 3:42:33 GMT
Oh by the way chaps, chappettes. I found Dr. Ogden's missing syringe:  See? It's even got his name on it. |
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Post by snacky on Apr 13, 2014 3:57:50 GMT
I found Dr. Ogden's missing syringe: lol! 7 hours of wading through youtube songs from the 80s and 90s for good vid tunes, I'm about ready to start rickrolling. Thanks for the sanity-saving laugh. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 13, 2014 4:05:15 GMT
Never watched Lost, never wanted to after I heard about the ending. Alias is probably the single most addictive show on the planet! Those writers are demented souls! I still have more trouble following those story lines than I ever did with Fringe and there was only one universe to deal with! xD I went to school with J.J. Abrams, was in the "other section" of a class he was in at the same time, and never met him. D: Wow, that's too bad! Do you like what he did with the star trek legacy? |
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Post by snacky on Apr 13, 2014 4:10:25 GMT
Wow, that's too bad! Do you like what he did with the star trek legacy? I consider myself an omni-trekker. I liked the original. I liked the TNG reboot. I liked the franchise. I liked the movies. And I liked the J.J. Abrams Hot Guy Trek. Sadly, I didn't get to see the Cumberbatch one in the theaters, and I'm still waiting for it to turn up on TV.  By the way, I think I figured out the difference between a non-addictive vs. addictive TV show for me. (No comment on whether they are good or bad as art). I think when a show uses degradation of human beings as a proxy for realism, it doesn't call for repeat viewing from me. Shock only works once. On the other hand, if a show uplifts the human spirit somehow or dignifies the human soul, I like the characters and want to learn more about them. This doesn't mean everyone has to be happy or even that the show has to be non-violent: there just needs to be something good about the human spirit to overcome the worst of circumstances. Good TV should help people rediscover the reasons to do right by other people. |
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