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Post by Fallenbelle on Mar 21, 2017 1:08:14 GMT
I think I'm going to have to let this sit for a while before I say anything.
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Post by Hodge on Mar 21, 2017 1:34:31 GMT
In truth it's already not realistic to the time period but it's not supposed to be a documentary so maybe they could get away with it. I'd rather not have W as the inspector though, seems to be a waste of his detecting talents. If they weren't going to be true to the time period in regard to the anti-Catholic bias in the Orange Lodge controlled Toronto, I don't think they would have introduced the subject in the first place, or referenced it in subsequent episodes...... I actually agree with you, just mentioning that it isn't a history show. |
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Post by lizmc on Mar 21, 2017 2:56:30 GMT
If they weren't going to be true to the time period in regard to the anti-Catholic bias in the Orange Lodge controlled Toronto, I don't think they would have introduced the subject in the first place, or referenced it in subsequent episodes...... I actually agree with you, just mentioning that it isn't a history show. No, it isn't, and no, it isn't a documentary, but they stay true enough to real events that I don't think they could realistically ignore that aspect of the history of Toronto..... |
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Post by lizmc on Mar 21, 2017 2:57:33 GMT
I think I'm going to have to let this sit for a while before I say anything. So am I.......and I am going to have wait a bit before I watch it again..... |
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Post by molly on Mar 21, 2017 3:06:54 GMT
What the hell just happened? I've already watched it again. We have to wait 7 months to find out?
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Post by Hodge on Mar 21, 2017 3:12:06 GMT
What the hell just happened? I've already watched it again. We have to wait 7 months to find out? Unfortunately yes. SEVEN LONG MONTHS.... |
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Post by murdochic on Mar 21, 2017 3:36:42 GMT
I don't believe for a second that Julia or George are dead. Brackenreid could be dead, but I really hope he's not. I also don't think Higgins is dead, at least I'm really hoping he's not. I'm mostly convinced it's Jackson who died because the actor is said to be moving to LA. Detective Watts is bound to help William find Julia and get the evidence against Williams. It's just horrible we have to wait 7 months to see for sure if Jackson died, and to have Julia rescued.
I didn't think Lydia had a place on MM, but I didn't want the poor girl murdered. She deserved better than that. Though I wish they hadn't of gotten George and Nina back together, I'm really sick of that storyline. It felt so rushed and unnecessary in this episode.
How did Davies get his job back? He was working in the records office the last time we saw him.
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Post by Hodge on Mar 21, 2017 3:46:55 GMT
How did Davies get his job back? He was working in the records office the last time we saw him. Corrupt politicians. |
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Post by murdochic on Mar 21, 2017 3:59:30 GMT
How did Davies get his job back? He was working in the records office the last time we saw him. Corrupt politicians. I assumed that, but I wish there had been a scene to quickly explain it. I guess there was a deleted scene that did just that. I'm crossing my fingers that it was actually him who got shot and not Brackenreid. But I have a bad feeling that it might not be  |
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Post by lizmc on Mar 21, 2017 4:05:00 GMT
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Post by Hodge on Mar 21, 2017 4:17:58 GMT
I assumed that, but I wish there had been a scene to quickly explain it. I guess there was a deleted scene that did just that. I'm crossing my fingers that it was actually him who got shot and not Brackenreid. But I have a bad feeling that it might not be Doubt there was a deleted scene. The scene where Davis comes in was meant to surprise and having a scene where he was made CC again would have negated that. I'm hoping Brackenreid turned the tables on him too, there was a pause between the gun being cocked and the shot so it is plausible. |
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Post by zoogirl on Mar 21, 2017 5:47:43 GMT
Did anyone notice that William didn't cross himself when he checked George? I'm guessing our George has a good chance!
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Post by Fallenbelle on Mar 21, 2017 11:54:55 GMT
At least he answered one of my main questions...it looks like the opener will be multi-parts and handle the aftermath and THEN jump forward a few months. I've been sitting here wondering that's it...everyone's gonna be missing or will have been dead for months? Now, the main question is whether or not Detective Watts is up to any good or not. One could argue that he could have been helping before and didn't, but I might also argue that he was lying low and waiting for a moment when it might be good to intervene. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Mar 21, 2017 12:15:09 GMT
Okay, I wrote my thoughts on the episode as I watched...I'll expand on some of them in parentheses.
Opens right up into the action I see. All righty then.
So Brax did take a shot at W. And missed.
Who is that little pissant ordering him around?
I long suspected that the dancer wasn't Nina, but the other friend, whose name I can't remember.
They brought Davis back? Is he the new Gillies? That man keeps coming back like an STD. What happened to the previous CC? Was he fired?
Oh shit. They did allude to an affair between William and the dancer. And of course Davis is the one to do it. Found dead in the bed? Seriously William and Julia, it's time to find a new place to live. That's the second time someone's been found dead in their marital bed. That place has bad juju. (I felt this way last season and I still feel this way. Even if they move to another hotel, they need to move!) Davis, the man you love to hate!
Good point, Henry re: arresting Murdoch. Would you George? Apparently yes. What happened? And George is naive if he thinks that as Higgins and Jackson certainly don't.
Lydia was the dancer's name. Oh, is Julia doubting William's fidelity? Ok. She isn't. Good. She should know that something is seriously wrong.
Oh, Nina does know more than she's letting on. (I still think this).
A nice, long Jilliam kiss. Uh oh, that spells trouble.
And William did fail to protect Lydia. It's Constance Gardner all over again. But worse. Oh boy.
George don't you know to look behind you to see if you're being followed? Oh, your naïveté. (Seriously, George, I can't believe you were that stupid!)
Okay, I thought this was going to involve Pendrick and Meyers somehow. I was wrong. It's a brand new cast of characters. (I'm still disappointed that this wasn't a matter of national security).
Why does Davis keep trying to be friendly with the men? Surely he knows they know better by now?
Uh oh, Julia's about to become bait.
Now Louise is somehow complicit? Something seems fishy.
Playing fast with Julia's life, William? Just like you did with Lydia's?
William, surely you knew they'd come for you there? Duh. (at the hotel-when he was dusting for fingerprints)
Louise is definitely complicit somehow. Slimy. Either the new bosses got to her, or she saw the directional change and is being very opportunistic.
George and Nina are a thing again? Good. Maybe they make some sort of compromise?
Seriously, George. Look behind you. Don't you ever learn? (Arghhhhhh, this is killing me! Look behind you-you're a cop that's trailed countless people-you should know better)
Is this a nightmare sequence? They can't all be dead? Something just doesn't seem real about this.
Post-Episode Thoughts
I don't know that I enjoyed this episode, but it certainly has me thinking. I get that it was trying to be shocking, but it just sort of feels unfinished as opposed to a cliffhanger. Is anyone else wondering if William will ever learn to leave things alone? Brax warned him against doing what he was doing, without more evidence, but W stubbornly persisted and got at least one person killed (Lydia) and at the minimum put everyone's life at grave risk. I can't help but feel W has blood on his hands now. I thought he was supposed to have learned that the truth is not everything after reconnecting with Father Keegan or with Constance Gardiner. It would seem he hasn't, nor does it appear that he ever will. I'm a bit angry at him right now, tbh. But, that's good as perfect characters are boring.
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Post by molly on Mar 21, 2017 13:37:11 GMT
Maybe Watts was also at the house and shot Davis before he could shoot Brackenreid. He seemed to pop out of nowhere at the end so he could have been around and involved in all this. Wasn't Watts from Station 5 before he was sent to Station 4? And wasn't Davis at Station 5 before his demotion? If not then I wouldn't be at all surprised if both Brackenreid and Jackson were dead.
Funniest thing I saw on twitter last night: Next season will be called Margaret Mysteries!
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