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Post by Marina on Mar 28, 2011 18:24:18 GMT
Can be' interesting know the name of the actor that play Darcy so we can see on imdb which episodes he has made Actor's name is Jonathan Watton, if you still need it  |
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Post by camilla on Mar 28, 2011 19:06:14 GMT
Thank you very much Marina!!
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Post by wildhorseannie on May 3, 2014 0:52:45 GMT
Poor Dr. Francis! Murdoch would have made life much easier for himself and the doctor if only he'd had a little empathy. This is something my father and I have often discussed. Murdoch would be a much more likable character if only he showed a little more compassion for those around him. Of course, he had ulterior motive for getting rid of Dr. Francis, but he still demonstrates his lack of perception by continuing to hound after Julia, even when she has found someone else. In fact, Darcy stands out in stark contrast to Murdoch by being sensitive to Julia's needs and encouraging her pursuit of the things that make her happy, even to the point of being willing to move to Toronto for her. (P.S...this is the latest episode I've seen, so please not too many spoilers about the Julia/Darcy plot! Thanks! ) |
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Post by snacky on May 3, 2014 8:04:19 GMT
Poor Dr. Francis! Murdoch would have made life much easier for himself and the doctor if only he'd had a little empathy. This is something my father and I have often discussed. Murdoch would be a much more likable character if only he showed a little more compassion for those around him. Of course, he had ulterior motive for getting rid of Dr. Francis, but he still demonstrates his lack of perception by continuing to hound after Julia, even when she has found someone else. In fact, Darcy stands out in stark contrast to Murdoch by being sensitive to Julia's needs and encouraging her pursuit of the things that make her happy, even to the point of being willing to move to Toronto for her. (P.S...this is the latest episode I've seen, so please not too many spoilers about the Julia/Darcy plot! Thanks! ) lol, I couldn't even remember his name until you reminded me just now. If William showed more compassion for those around him, then he'd be another "regular guy" and a lot less interesting to watch. Once you identify that a character has a "problem" (like lack of sympathy for those who don't put their job first), then analyzing why that may be and whether that's a good thing becomes an endless source of amusement. I actually became a lot more interested in MM after reading some forum comment (I think it was here) speculating on whether William had Asperger's Syndrome. If he does, would that make him a better detective? Does that "neural diversity" give him particular strengths/virtues as well as weaknesses to overcome and challenges to meet? Is Julia like him or do opposites attract? I totally agree with you about Darcy, and, without giving anything away, I had great sympathy for Darcy during most of the run of MM so far. And while I understood Julia's choice to marry him, that decision triggers all sorts of downstream issues. I expect Julia to have to deal with the consequences far into the future. Since I got the benefit of 20/20 hindsight by watching later seasons first, I also think the Darcy marriage was smart move in regard to setting up later conflicts and interesting plotlines for MM. While of course I believe Julia belongs with William, I'm actually glad Season 4 happened. (don't stone me, CC!) |
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Post by snacky on May 3, 2014 8:06:41 GMT
Poor Dr. Francis! Murdoch would have made life much easier for himself and the doctor if only he'd had a little empathy. This is something my father and I have often discussed. Murdoch would be a much more likable character if only he showed a little more compassion for those around him. Of course, he had ulterior motive for getting rid of Dr. Francis, but he still demonstrates his lack of perception by continuing to hound after Julia, even when she has found someone else. In fact, Darcy stands out in stark contrast to Murdoch by being sensitive to Julia's needs and encouraging her pursuit of the things that make her happy, even to the point of being willing to move to Toronto for her. (P.S...this is the latest episode I've seen, so please not too many spoilers about the Julia/Darcy plot! Thanks! ) By the way, I think you're going to love the French guy in the next episode. XD One spoiler I will drop: Julia shows she can speak French in later episodes... XD |
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Post by wildhorseannie on May 4, 2014 1:26:42 GMT
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's wondered about Murdoch having Aspergers! He would seem to fit the symptoms pretty well. The only problem is that it sometimes seems like the writers want to present him as a "regular guy" which makes his idiosyncrasies come across as rude and uncaring rather than simply part of his mental state. I feel like the writers of Criminal Minds did a much better job in presenting a main character with clear autistic symptoms, making his sometimes odd behavior a little more understandable and less irritating. Unfortunately, I just sent my Netflix dvd back in the mail, so it will be a few days before I get the next one  |
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Post by snacky on May 4, 2014 2:39:58 GMT
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's wondered about Murdoch having Aspergers! He would seem to fit the symptoms pretty well. The only problem is that it sometimes seems like the writers want to present him as a "regular guy" which makes his idiosyncrasies come across as rude and uncaring rather than simply part of his mental state. I feel like the writers of Criminal Minds did a much better job in presenting a main character with clear autistic symptoms, making his sometimes odd behavior a little more understandable and less irritating. Unfortunately, I just sent my Netflix dvd back in the mail, so it will be a few days before I get the next one I never got the rude and uncaring impression: what I get is preoccupied and occasionally socially befuddled. If William does have Asperger's, it's really on the high end. He's definitely introverted, but the monotone makes it seem like Yannick is trying to convey an unusual frame of mind beyond just a talent for math. I thought he might have a dopamine disorder. It would put him at a greater risk for alcoholism and other drug addictions (ironically low dopamine states can also cause pain, which would cause one to reach for the self-medications in the first place). It would explain why he has to be prompted to do things he wants to do (re: Julia). (It might also make nookie particularly healing for him - hehehe). Low dopamine can cause depression and social anxiety/phobia (re: William's attachment to social protocols) and would make people fall back on logic/habit (to remedy the lack of motivation as well as a substitute for social cues). Anyway, that's my "theory of mind", and I'm watching to see what theory Yannick has been working with (if any). |
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Post by snacky on Nov 9, 2014 3:00:18 GMT
My comment: What happened to Julia's desire to work with sick children? This reason totally evaporated. Was this a lie in the first place? Is it okay for Julia to return to Toronto now that she's engaged? She ONLY left because of William?
Eclair's comment: "I think William is a masochist". He can't imagine how William can want to work with Julia every day knowing that she's engaged to Darcy now and he can't have her.
Eclair also asks: How can William reconcile himself to the hanging of criminals when Catholics are against the death penalty?
Question: When did Catholics officially position themselves against the death penalty? I have a feeling this is post-WWII.
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Post by Hodge on Nov 9, 2014 3:13:37 GMT
My comment: What happened to Julia's desire to work with sick children? This reason totally evaporated. Was this a lie in the first place? Is it okay for Julia to return to Toronto now that she's engaged? She ONLY left because of William? Eclair's comment: "I think William is a masochist". He can't imagine how William can want to work with Julia every day knowing that she's engaged to Darcy now and he can't have her. Eclair also asks: How can William reconcile himself to the hanging of criminals when Catholics are against the death penalty? Question: When did Catholics officially position themselves against the death penalty? I have a feeling this is post-WWII. I thought it odd she jumped at the chance to come back to Toronto and work at the morgue again but I'm sure she did it to be near William although she may not have realized that at the time. Yes, William is a masochist for wanting Julia around even though she's engaged to Darcy but he loves her so much he'll do anything to be near her.  William's compartmentalization. |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 9, 2014 3:20:08 GMT
My comment: What happened to Julia's desire to work with sick children? This reason totally evaporated. Was this a lie in the first place? Is it okay for Julia to return to Toronto now that she's engaged? She ONLY left because of William? Eclair's comment: "I think William is a masochist". He can't imagine how William can want to work with Julia every day knowing that she's engaged to Darcy now and he can't have her. Eclair also asks: How can William reconcile himself to the hanging of criminals when Catholics are against the death penalty? Question: When did Catholics officially position themselves against the death penalty? I have a feeling this is post-WWII. I suspect Julia is sick of dealing with the male hierarchy at the hospital. She probably still loves working with children but she had complete autonomy in the morgue. That would be a difficult transition. I believe she left mostly because of William. She had a notion that it would force him to look at other women who could give him a family. Agreeing to come back falls into "another one of Julia's colossal mistakes" and "Julia's exceptional selfishness". That is 'compartmentalized William'. He separates the dictates of his faith that conflict with the reality of his job. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 9, 2014 4:31:38 GMT
I thought it odd she jumped at the chance to come back to Toronto and work at the morgue again but I'm sure she did it to be near William although she may not have realized that at the time. Yes, William is a masochist for wanting Julia around even though she's engaged to Darcy but he loves her so much he'll do anything to be near her. William's compartmentalization. I can see William's desperation in light of the Dr. Francis situation. It seems like he can barely function as a Detective anymore without the coroner being at his beck and call. The chief problem with Dr. Francis was that he had a life, and he was balancing William's needs with the rest of the Constabulary's. The partnership with Julia made William more efficient. In some of the other threads I've constructed elaborate reasons about why Julia left. I think this episode made it abundantly clear that she left to make a clean break of her relationship with William. All the talk about healing children was bunk. Once she was secure in an alternative relationship, Julia had absolutely no problem returning to the morgue, and in fact seemed to prefer that job and love working with William to solve cases. She just needed to secure her future and free William to secure his. Yet...William popped back up in Buffalo many months later wanting to renew their relationship (seeming to forget why they broke up in the first place!) and back in Toronto it doesn't seem like he moved on at all. I get this picture of Julia calling her girlfriends to fix William up on blind dates to tie up this loose end... |
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Post by snacky on Nov 9, 2014 4:37:45 GMT
I suspect Julia is sick of dealing with the male hierarchy at the hospital. She probably still loves working with children but she had complete autonomy in the morgue. That would be a difficult transition. I believe she left mostly because of William. She had a notion that it would force him to look at other women who could give him a family. Agreeing to come back falls into "another one of Julia's colossal mistakes" and "Julia's exceptional selfishness". That is 'compartmentalized William'. He separates the dictates of his faith that conflict with the reality of his job. Ooh, interesting point that Julia couldn't deal with the male hierarchy anymore and preferred the autonomy of the morgue. I wish the writers had actually referenced something like that! I don't think coming back was total "selfishness" on Julia's part, though part of her wanted to do it. Darcy more or less pushed her into doing it. She couldn't explain why not without confessing her previous relationship with William, which she wasn't ready to do yet. And perhaps she wasn't sure of William's status yet and thought he might have a girlfriend...? Compartmentalizing an issue as huge as the death penalty seems like a pretty huge thing to me. I'm going to look this up more about it. I didn't even know the Catholic Church had a formal stance on the matter until Eclair brought it up. |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 9, 2014 4:46:13 GMT
I suspect Julia is sick of dealing with the male hierarchy at the hospital. She probably still loves working with children but she had complete autonomy in the morgue. That would be a difficult transition. I believe she left mostly because of William. She had a notion that it would force him to look at other women who could give him a family. Agreeing to come back falls into "another one of Julia's colossal mistakes" and "Julia's exceptional selfishness". That is 'compartmentalized William'. He separates the dictates of his faith that conflict with the reality of his job. Ooh, interesting point that Julia couldn't deal with the male hierarchy anymore and preferred the autonomy of the morgue. I wish the writers had actually referenced something like that! I don't think coming back was total "selfishness" on Julia's part, though part of her wanted to do it. Darcy more or less pushed her into doing it. She couldn't explain why not without confessing her previous relationship with William, which she wasn't ready to do yet. And perhaps she wasn't sure of William's status yet and thought he might have a girlfriend...? Compartmentalizing an issue as huge as the death penalty seems like a pretty huge thing to me. I'm going to look this up more about it. I didn't even know the Catholic Church had a formal stance on the matter until Eclair brought it up. William explained his rationale in Hangman. Julia was very distressed and was questioning what they do. His answer was clear compartmentalization. Julia was selfish to let herself be talked into staying. She knew why she left in the first place and she knew William still had feelings for her a la Buffalo Shuffle. . |
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Post by Hodge on Nov 9, 2014 4:50:51 GMT
I don't think coming back was total "selfishness" on Julia's part, though part of her wanted to do it. Darcy more or less pushed her into doing it. She couldn't explain why not without confessing her previous relationship with William, which she wasn't ready to do yet. And perhaps she wasn't sure of William's status yet and thought he might have a girlfriend...? Julia should have picked up on William's status when they were in the morgue talking to Dr. Francis. He picked up on things pretty quickly. |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 9, 2014 5:11:34 GMT
I don't think coming back was total "selfishness" on Julia's part, though part of her wanted to do it. Darcy more or less pushed her into doing it. She couldn't explain why not without confessing her previous relationship with William, which she wasn't ready to do yet. And perhaps she wasn't sure of William's status yet and thought he might have a girlfriend...? Julia should have picked up on William's status when they were in the morgue talking to Dr. Francis. He picked up on things pretty quickly. I love that scene. Both of them were gobsmacked that a relative stranger could see what they were both trying so hard to hide. |
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