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Post by snacky on Nov 9, 2014 20:23:54 GMT
With actors being paid by the day, I can totally see how the default assumption would be the actor got a job elsewhere and was written out of the script. So that doubles the size of the cajones on the part of the writers. (And again might explain the "fan rapture"). But in retrospect, it worked out in a really interesting way. I guess all I can say is I was lucky to have not been on the spot.  And that was back when we had to wait NINE FREAKING MONTHS FOR THE NEXT SEASON!!!  And what you got was...Julia married to Darcy. In a season rerun a couple times while they got their Season 6 act together. LOL? Anyway, I do understand that was like a shockwave of trauma. I wonder if anything could have been done to "cloud seed" the idea that all hope was not lost for William and Julia? Or perhaps Shaftesbury was just too engaged in the epic struggle just to get CBC to pick up the show and guarantee a 5th season to think about where they had left the "bookmark". Your Princess Bride model would have come in useful here.  |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 1:36:14 GMT
Julia should have picked up on William's status when they were in the morgue talking to Dr. Francis. He picked up on things pretty quickly. William seems to be radiating his feelings about Julia somehow: Callahan and Guillaume pick up on them. At the end of Season 2, Jasper could somehow see William's feelings for Julia, too. I have to wonder how, since William is not one to display is emotions. What is this "tell" that other men can see. Then the next question is: can Julia see it? We say she is selfish for taking the morgue job when William still has feelings for her, but she fled to Buffalo precisely because she couldn't get a read on William's feelings. I'm still trying to decide whether Julia heard Inspector Guillaume hint William should take Julia as his mistress or not. Henry called William heartsick in Buffalo Shuffle and both George and Brackenreid agree he's pining in Anything You Can Do. My take is that Wiliiam has enough self-awareness to recognize that he is generally hard to read. The fact that everyone can see how Wm wears his heart on his sleeve with respect to Julia just underscores her status as his Achilles heel. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 2:48:47 GMT
The fact that everyone can see how Wm wears his heart on his sleeve with respect to Julia just underscores her status as his Achilles heel. Which is why Gillies knew to use Julia against William. I'm sure William hates having an Achilles Heel, too, since he has no control over that. And he's a neat freak. |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 2:54:52 GMT
The fact that everyone can see how Wm wears his heart on his sleeve with respect to Julia just underscores her status as his Achilles heel. Which is why Gillies knew to use Julia against William. I'm sure William hates having an Achilles Heel, too, since he has no control over that. And he's a neat freak. I'm not 100% sure that William realizes how obviously vulnerable he is where Julia is concerned. He is aware of his own emotional vulnerability to be hurt by her but is completely unaware of how much he wears his heart on his sleeve. |
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Post by Hodge on Nov 16, 2014 3:04:06 GMT
Julia should have picked up on William's status when they were in the morgue talking to Dr. Francis. He picked up on things pretty quickly. William seems to be radiating his feelings about Julia somehow: Callahan and Guillaume pick up on them. At the end of Season 2, Jasper could somehow see William's feelings for Julia, too. I have to wonder how, since William is not one to display is emotions. What is this "tell" that other men can see. Then the next question is: can Julia see it? We say she is selfish for taking the morgue job when William still has feelings for her, but she fled to Buffalo precisely because she couldn't get a read on William's feelings. I'm still trying to decide whether Julia heard Inspector Guillaume hint William should take Julia as his mistress or not. Jasper picked up on William's feelings because he was watching the way William looked at Julia every time he saw her. Guillaume also mentioned that William sneaked looks at her when she wasn't looking, he also noticed Julia doing the same. With Callahan it was the way William talked about her as well as the way he looked at her when they were having the conversation when saying goodbye. In other words, William can't help sneaking peeks at Julia and now and again he lets it slip in the way he speaks about her. With Dr. Francis it was plain as day as soon as he confronted William on why he was constantly at odds with him. I think this is when Julia realizes that William hasn't moved on. |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 3:21:24 GMT
William seems to be radiating his feelings about Julia somehow: Callahan and Guillaume pick up on them. At the end of Season 2, Jasper could somehow see William's feelings for Julia, too. I have to wonder how, since William is not one to display is emotions. What is this "tell" that other men can see. Then the next question is: can Julia see it? We say she is selfish for taking the morgue job when William still has feelings for her, but she fled to Buffalo precisely because she couldn't get a read on William's feelings. I'm still trying to decide whether Julia heard Inspector Guillaume hint William should take Julia as his mistress or not. Jasper picked up on William's feelings because he was watching the way William looked at Julia every time he saw her. Guillaume also mentioned that William sneaked looks at her when she wasn't looking, he also noticed Julia doing the same. With Callahan it was the way William talked about her as well as the way he looked at her when they were having the conversation when saying goodbye. In other words, William can't help sneaking peeks at Julia and now and again he lets it slip in the way he speaks about her. With Dr. Francis it was plain as day as soon as he confronted William on why he was constantly at odds with him. I think this is when Julia realizes that William hasn't moved on. I agree with you. I also love that the writers have maintained such consistency with William's character throughout. Cudos also to Yannick for his brilliant, non verbal acting within this character arc. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 5:35:39 GMT
Jasper picked up on William's feelings because he was watching the way William looked at Julia every time he saw her. Guillaume also mentioned that William sneaked looks at her when she wasn't looking, he also noticed Julia doing the same. With Callahan it was the way William talked about her as well as the way he looked at her when they were having the conversation when saying goodbye. In other words, William can't help sneaking peeks at Julia and now and again he lets it slip in the way he speaks about her. With Dr. Francis it was plain as day as soon as he confronted William on why he was constantly at odds with him. I think this is when Julia realizes that William hasn't moved on. I agree with you. I also love that the writers have maintained such consistency with William's character throughout. Cudos also to Yannick for his brilliant, non verbal acting within this character arc. In Dead End Street Julia notes how people communicate with their eyes. She missed a biggie here! William even tried to psychically communicate with her on the spot!  Credit: 22ontariostreet.tumblr.com/post/48800519179/eye-contact-4x06-dead-end-street |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 5:38:35 GMT
Jasper picked up on William's feelings because he was watching the way William looked at Julia every time he saw her. Guillaume also mentioned that William sneaked looks at her when she wasn't looking, he also noticed Julia doing the same. With Callahan it was the way William talked about her as well as the way he looked at her when they were having the conversation when saying goodbye. In other words, William can't help sneaking peeks at Julia and now and again he lets it slip in the way he speaks about her. With Dr. Francis it was plain as day as soon as he confronted William on why he was constantly at odds with him. I think this is when Julia realizes that William hasn't moved on. I think William was always surprised when outsiders could observe his feelings for Julia, though. Traditionally his feelings are hard to read. In Tattered and Torn, Inspector B is at wits end trying to figure out what William is thinking. But when it comes to Julia, he might as well be broadcasting to the moon. |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 5:42:19 GMT
Jasper picked up on William's feelings because he was watching the way William looked at Julia every time he saw her. Guillaume also mentioned that William sneaked looks at her when she wasn't looking, he also noticed Julia doing the same. With Callahan it was the way William talked about her as well as the way he looked at her when they were having the conversation when saying goodbye. In other words, William can't help sneaking peeks at Julia and now and again he lets it slip in the way he speaks about her. With Dr. Francis it was plain as day as soon as he confronted William on why he was constantly at odds with him. I think this is when Julia realizes that William hasn't moved on. I think William was always surprised when outsiders could observe his feelings for Julia, though. Traditionally his feelings are hard to read. In Tattered and Torn, Inspector B is at wits end trying to figure out what William is thinking. But when it comes to Julia, he might as well be broadcasting to the moon. William is the only one who doesn't see it...because he's the one projecting it. I think it's so cute when he gets all startled or offended that someone has picked up on that message. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 5:48:40 GMT
William is the only one who doesn't see it...because he's the one projecting it. I think it's so cute when he gets all startled or offended that someone has picked up on that message. He has no idea how to hide it, either. |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 16, 2014 6:03:26 GMT
William is the only one who doesn't see it...because he's the one projecting it. I think it's so cute when he gets all startled or offended that someone has picked up on that message. He has no idea how to hide it, either. It's so cute. Again, the genius of Yannick's non-verbal acting  . |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 16, 2014 6:51:11 GMT
William seems to be radiating his feelings about Julia somehow: Callahan and Guillaume pick up on them. At the end of Season 2, Jasper could somehow see William's feelings for Julia, too. I have to wonder how, since William is not one to display is emotions. What is this "tell" that other men can see. Then the next question is: can Julia see it? We say she is selfish for taking the morgue job when William still has feelings for her, but she fled to Buffalo precisely because she couldn't get a read on William's feelings. I'm still trying to decide whether Julia heard Inspector Guillaume hint William should take Julia as his mistress or not. Henry called William heartsick in Buffalo Shuffle and both George and Brackenreid agree he's pining in Anything You Can Do. My take is that Wiliiam has enough self-awareness to recognize that he is generally hard to read. The fact that everyone can see how Wm wears his heart on his sleeve with respect to Julia just underscores her status as his Achilles heel. William does wear his heart on his sleeve where Julia's concerned-he always has. Even in Still Waters, his feelings for Julia were already common knowledge-the boys were quite keen to watch him squirm while Julia asked him questions-and Henry was encouraging it all the more. I reckon SH4 knew their feelings for one another before W/J even admitted it to themselves. Plus, I've always said that William's eyes are the gateway to his soul and while he can school his facial expressions (most of the time), his tone of voice, and even his physical stance-but his eyes give him away every single time. TBH, I love that this man who symbolizes the lone, silent, strong type has his love of a woman as an achilles heel. To paraphrase the Apostle Paul, that's got to be the thorn in his flesh. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 16, 2014 6:54:10 GMT
Jasper picked up on William's feelings because he was watching the way William looked at Julia every time he saw her. Guillaume also mentioned that William sneaked looks at her when she wasn't looking, he also noticed Julia doing the same. With Callahan it was the way William talked about her as well as the way he looked at her when they were having the conversation when saying goodbye. In other words, William can't help sneaking peeks at Julia and now and again he lets it slip in the way he speaks about her. With Dr. Francis it was plain as day as soon as he confronted William on why he was constantly at odds with him. I think this is when Julia realizes that William hasn't moved on. I agree with you. I also love that the writers have maintained such consistency with William's character throughout. Cudos also to Yannick for his brilliant, non verbal acting within this character arc. YB's facial expressions are pure genius-he conveys more about who William is more than he ever could through words. Brilliant. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 6:54:26 GMT
while he can school his facial expressions (most of the time), his tone of voice, and even his physical stance-but his eyes give him away every single time. TBH, I love that this man who symbolizes the lone, silent, strong type has his love of a woman as an achilles heel. To paraphrase the Apostle Paul, that's got to be the thorn in his flesh. He's radiating those manly pheromones, too! |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 6:56:46 GMT
I agree with you. I also love that the writers have maintained such consistency with William's character throughout. Cudos also to Yannick for his brilliant, non verbal acting within this character arc. YB's facial expressions are pure genius-he conveys more about who William is more than he ever could through words. Brilliant. Elsewhere I've commented that I think YB's facial acting is actually better than his vocals. And that's probably why he's largely under-appreciated: people tend to notice the vocal acting first, since that's the most basic. |
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