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Post by Lucy on Apr 11, 2012 21:55:24 GMT
Murdoch continues to investigate the death of a seemingly shy librarian when he runs into a former love interest, Anna Fulford.
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Post by petunia on Apr 12, 2012 22:09:08 GMT
Ok. Here are my wild speculations on what I think is going to happen. Assuming that William and Anna did sleep together in Part 1, then Anna gets pregnant.
Julia and Emily are actually secretly doing arbortions. That is the clinic they were taling about in that one scene. Anna gets pregnant (from William) and on the run from the Black Hand realizes that she cannot bring a child into the world and gets Julia to perform an abortion.
William finds out in a few episodes and does the "emotional scenes" the spoilers have been talking about, confronts Julia about her "killing" his unborn child. They have a big fight which puts back them getting together by at least one season. It allows the writers one more season to also figure what to do about Julia's marriage.
Pretty well out there. I know, but nevertheless fun to speculate!!!!
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 13, 2012 0:31:47 GMT
wow, now that would be crazy! as much as i'd love to see william do an emotional scene, where he really lets his demons loose, i'd really hate it if the writers go down that road. but then again, since they have another season to fix things, this could very well be their intention. i mean, they've already screwed up their relationship this much, why not go for broke. it's just, i hate watching sad, mopey william. if they'd give him someone to be with in the meantime, it wouldn't be so bad. then again, i don't like seeing him with other women either. i'm just impossible to please. ;D anyways, interesting theory petunia!
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Post by shangas on Apr 13, 2012 0:54:16 GMT
Contraception is very different from abortions. I don't buy that theory at all.
What the doctors want to do is to teach women how to NOT have babies. Not how to get rid of them once they do have them.
On the "ending", I theorise either...
1). Gunshot is Anna shooting the assassin. 2). Gunshot is assassin shooting (wounding) Anna. 3). Gunshot is Murdoch shooting assassin and killing him (most likely scenario, in my opinion).
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 13, 2012 1:03:32 GMT
ah good point shangas! this makes me feel a lot better.
i don't think it's any of those. i think he tackles the would be killer and the shot just goes astray. then they duke it out and maybe anna even helps knock the guy out. though i do wonder about the first guy. i didn't really get why he was there. just to taunt her? because she was able to call for help since he approached her before the second guy tried to kill her. maybe he was just back up in case the second guy fails in his task?
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Post by shangas on Apr 13, 2012 2:19:18 GMT
I don't agree with that, for the pure reason that we don't hear anything else other than the gunshot.
And I don't know where you got the idea that there's two assassins. There's only one in the episode.
The way I see it, the gunshot is Murdoch shooting the assassin. Or possibly, Anna shooting the assassin. It wasn't unknown, back in those days, for ladies to be packin' heat. They could carry around small derringers or pocket-pistols for their own personal protection.
Anna ain't dead. I'd be pretty sure of that. If she is, then they would've just done it. No point in holding off for another week, waiting for a certainty.
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Post by hannikan on Apr 13, 2012 2:32:48 GMT
Yeah, I don't think Anna is dead either. I think either the gunshot was William shooting the assassin or William dropped Anna and himself to the ground in time for the assassin's shot to miss them both. I think it's the latter personally.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 13, 2012 2:48:05 GMT
the guy who tries to kill her is clearly younger than the one who first approached her. plus, i think the first guy had a red tie and the second one had a blue one. now, i think the reason the first one was there was so that she wouldn't suspect the second guy to attack her. (the first guy left).
yes, i definitely agree with this. they aren't going to kill her off after all (i orginally thought she'd die at the end of the 2 parter). she's just going to go into hiding permanently.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 13, 2012 2:52:25 GMT
william basically never carries a gun so i kind of doubt it's the first one. the other possibility crossed my mind as well. but i thought it'd be more dramatic if he tackled the assassin instead. plus, if he tackles anna, then they're both still in a lot of danger. unless the guy runs away. which is a possibility so he can try again later.
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Post by hannikan on Apr 13, 2012 6:04:20 GMT
william basically never carries a gun so i kind of doubt it's the first one. the other possibility crossed my mind as well. but i thought it'd be more dramatic if he tackled the assassin instead. plus, if he tackles anna, then they're both still in a lot of danger. unless the guy runs away. which is a possibility so he can try again later. He probably did grab a gun. And it's true that Anna might have had one, too. She brought one when the caught the assassin in The Black Hand. She might have carried one in her purse afterward. But if they just dropped and rolled the chase could continue at the beginning of part 2. I could see that. We'll have to see
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Post by catymurdoch on Apr 13, 2012 12:56:14 GMT
I donk think Anna would have the time to reach her gun if its in her purse. The other guy is already aiming at her and he is not gonna wait for her to take her gun if she has one. I dont think William had the time to bring a gun with him too. So I think the assassin shoots at Anna but either William jumps on him first or he pushes Anna out of the way. Not sure which one is best but I think he pushes Anna and the guy runs away. Either the bullet didnt hurt anyone or injured Anna slightly and she needs to go to hospital for 2 days. She may be out of the picture for the rest of the episode and we could see the Julia storyline getting more tv time. And Murdoch who saw the guy who shot Anna will go after him, eventually find him and if he killed the librarian, he will hang. This does not mean that Anna is safe but she will have to disappear again anyway for good this time and will never return to Toronto. I think episode 2 will b more about Julia and her principles. It makes sense as episode 1 was more about Anna and the black hand. About the title " Stroll on the wild side" : I suppose they called it like that because its related to both the Anna storyline and the Julia storyline. We already saw the wild side of the Anna story but we still need to see the wild side of Julia story. We only saw the beginning of it , therefore I think Emily will go ahead with the protest (wild) and Julia will come and help her because she actually started the whole thing . She would feel guilty if she does not and her principles are too valuable to her for other women's sake to just stop and wait for Darcy to get his promotion. She won't have time to wait because Emily will put herself in a deep mess with other women who may all end up in jail and Julia would hate to see that happen. I think her practise will eventually be shut down because of the protest and the consequences. Emily will have to leave because she would loose her job at the morgue and Julia comes back to tackle the cases with William. Darcy will leave her because she is a threat to his career. I hope for something like that to happen but I don't know if they will have her returned to the morgue or her carrying on with her practice. The practice is a great thing for Julia but would the practice still be able to run after the emancipation protest?!!!!! If she goes back to the morgues, the writers are going backward and I would think the writers want the story to go forward. They could obviously do the full circle storyline like they did with Mulder and Scully in the X-files but I am not sure if it would be a great idea. I would love to see William and Julia working together though at solving the cases. If she is still in her practice, it would be a bit difficult to have her around at station4 and we will not see her much. Lets hope for the writers to write the best stuff ever.
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Post by petunia on Apr 13, 2012 14:50:30 GMT
I think that somehow the three storylines: 1: Julia's family planning, 2: Dead librarian/exotic dancer 3: Anna and the Black Hand will all come together in part 2. How that will happen, I have no clue. The only thing I am convinced of is that Anna does not die. A lot of fans love her character and surely the writers would want to leave the possibility of bringing her back again open.
On the William/Julia front, I think the writers need to explore a new angle. Friendship, love, akwardness have all been covered. They did not have to deal with Julia this season as she was absent from most of it. So for season 6 they should have them not liking each other. They need to find a reason for them to fight, hence my abortion idea.
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Post by Lucy on Apr 13, 2012 16:36:51 GMT
I have absolutely no idea what is going to happen! It's all too much for me to take, I get much too excited for my own good!...
You all have interesting theories and I'm intrigued to find out how they are going to divorce Julia and Darcy but I don't know whether that's possible. Hmmm...
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Post by hannikan on Apr 13, 2012 22:09:31 GMT
It's possible if Darcy asks for the divorce. Men could divorce women for many more reasons than women could. Julia would have to be being repeatedly beaten and have witnesses to attest to it or have witnesses to attest to repeated adultery. Whereas Darcy could point to her acting "outside her sex" by entering the public realm in a political way as an advocate for contraception. This being illegal and thought to be be an abomination against God would give Darcy ample fuel for a divorce. I do think it's interesting timing for this episode since recently religious conservatives in the U.S. like former pres. candidate Rick Santorum have been using the same kinds of arguments against birth control today.
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Post by catymurdoch on Apr 13, 2012 23:19:16 GMT
I dont think the writers r gonna do something drastic to the Darcy character because they are may be som Darcy/Julia fans around, so they will make him exit the show in a nice way so that the D/J shippers are not too offended although I didnt see any music videos about those 2 on u tube yet and by now I though it would b possible to do at least one anyway. Darcy will go. Its obvious according to what we had so far in season 5 ... the Emily chat to Crabtree in ep 2 was a clue about a marriage without passion. I mean we dont know what's happening behind close doors but as far as I have seen, when Julia kisses William its full of passion. U can always notice her hands going through William's hair but when Darcy and Julia kiss, its just a pick on the lip, hardly passionnate. I think Julia misses the passion in a relationship and it shows a lot in season 5 episode 1, 2 and the last one, stroll on the wild side. She wants passion, Julia will not settle for love and respect only like she said in ep 2. She knows it but now for her, how can she get it??? She made a huge mistake to marry Darcy and she is aware of it already. How can she get out of it is another matter? I dont think the decision will come from her. She is too respectfuf of Darcy. Darcy will make it for her and I am glad about it. lol
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