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Post by Anna on Feb 2, 2014 20:24:08 GMT
Does anyone know if William and Julia will actually ever get married?
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Post by Lucas on Feb 2, 2014 20:28:50 GMT
They have to because in season 5 at the end William says to Julia that he has seen the future and the women he saw himself with was her, so at some point they will have to get married. And at some point aren't they supposed to have a son together as well?
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Post by snacky on Feb 2, 2014 23:54:18 GMT
I saw a comment on a fan vid that asked how William could have descendants (Bill Murdoch on Republic of Doyle) if Julia is sterile. I started to theorize about descendents of William's half brother Jasper, but then the reincarnation line about "having done this before" (adventures in Newfoundland) would make no sense.
When William "sees the future" in Twentieth Century Murdoch, it's just a figment of his imagination under hypnosis - but William realizes the vision was a manifestation of his deepest desires, so he must strive to bring about the future he saw. He had brought up adopting before, so a son could still be included in that vision.
The theory I prefer is that Julia turns out not to be sterile after all: either the prognosis was wrong or the damage healed. Or perhaps she pulls a Scully (X-Files), and she is cured of sterility by some mysterious intervention. Hopefully she won't have to be abducted by aliens.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Feb 3, 2014 0:56:04 GMT
WARNING: SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SO DO NOT READ MY NEXT POST IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO FIND OUT SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Feb 3, 2014 0:56:32 GMT
WARNING: SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SO STOP READING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FIND OUT SOMETHING YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.
Julia was actually followed by GILLIES; he's still alive and I have now a proof you can't deny. Indeed you can read "James GILLIES Micheal SEATER" at the end of the episode at the fourth line in the credits. His name doesn't appear in the opening credits in order to not spoiler the effect of surprise of the next episodes. The same trick was used for "USUAL SUSPECTS" and "SEVEN" in order to not find out who was Kayser SÖZE and who was the killer in « SEVEN » before having watched/seen the end of the films/movies. |
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Post by snacky on Feb 3, 2014 1:29:31 GMT
I think this comparison would only hold water if we can spot Michael Seater in the episode. Otherwise, he could just get a credit because he's mentioned/alluded to in the episode. Or someone is cunning enough to plant Michael Seater in the credits as a red herring. We are definitely being set up to distrust Leslie. This makes me think he might be being used unwittingly by Gillies, but in the end he will surprise us by rescuing Emily or something. Or he is being controlled by the walk-in spirit of Gillies. Bwahahaha.  |
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Post by MelodyPond101 on Feb 3, 2014 4:34:41 GMT
Hmmm.... I don't know. His voice was used in the episode when Julia was reading the letters, remember? They would have to give him at least some credit for that- and I don't think that the writers and creators of the show would be foolish enough to spoil a major plotline with a name in the credits. As Gillies' actual face was not seen, they could use anybody as him- assuming that he is a character that we've seen, though I'm not convinced- and therefore avoid the issue of using his name in the end credits. I'm pretty sure that it's just recognition for the voice acting.
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Post by shangas on Feb 3, 2014 9:10:50 GMT
Modern medicine as we recognise it today came about in the second half the 1800s. But it's not what we have now, obviously. Misdiagnosis must've happened, if not regularly, then at least occasionally.
I'd say that Julia isn't sterile. How would she know for sure unless she does the deed? There have been countless cases where doctors have said that "You won't do *X*, *Y* or *Z*" ever again", and have been proven wrong.
My father was told by the doctor at the hospital that I wouldn't live longer than a week, when I was born. I'm here now, 20+ years later. I have a couple of minor disabilities (poor eyesight and a slight hearing-loss), but I'm not strapped to a wheelchair drooling over my own hands.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Feb 3, 2014 11:00:36 GMT
Hmmm.... I don't know. His voice was used in the episode when Julia was reading the letters, remember? They would have to give him at least some credit for that- and I don't think that the writers and creators of the show would be foolish enough to spoil a major plotline with a name in the credits. As Gillies' actual face was not seen, they could use anybody as him- assuming that he is a character that we've seen, though I'm not convinced- and therefore avoid the issue of using his name in the end credits. I'm pretty sure that it's just recognition for the voice acting. I didn't think about that and you might be right. Indeed we could hear the voice of GILLIES when Julia was reading the letter in the previous episode and the name of Micheal SEATER appeared in the end credits. But I'm still convinced that GILLIES followed Julia during her investigations -even if I didn't see his face- because of the funny walk of this extra in the background. According to me, the gait of this extra was not natural and of course if it was actually GILLIES, the writers/creators surely would not want him to be recognized and so he must hide his face. Moreover maybe the creators choosed to launch the trailer of the next episode and the end credits in the same time in order that people do not notice the name of Micheal SEATER. |
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Post by murdochic on Feb 3, 2014 12:06:39 GMT
Hmmm.... I don't know. His voice was used in the episode when Julia was reading the letters, remember? They would have to give him at least some credit for that- and I don't think that the writers and creators of the show would be foolish enough to spoil a major plotline with a name in the credits. As Gillies' actual face was not seen, they could use anybody as him- assuming that he is a character that we've seen, though I'm not convinced- and therefore avoid the issue of using his name in the end credits. I'm pretty sure that it's just recognition for the voice acting. I didn't think about that and you might be right. Indeed we could hear the voice of GILLIES when Julia was reading the letter in the previous episode and the name of Micheal SEATER appeared in the end credits. But I'm still convinced that GILLIES followed Julia during her investigations -even if I didn't see his face- because of the funny walk of this extra in the background. According to me, the gait of this extra was not natural and of course if it was actually GILLIES, the writers/creators surely would not want him to be recognized and so he must hide his face. Moreover maybe the creators choosed to launch the trailer of the next episode and the end credits in the same time in order that people do not notice the name of Micheal SEATER. His name was in the credits because of the voice-over. They wouldn't actually use the actor to be in the background even if it was Gillies. They'd use an extra/stand-in. That's not proof it's Gillies. Other than the voice-overs we have no proof it's him doing any of this. Which is why it's unlikely to be him at all. We'll have to wait and see when the show comes back in a month. |
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Post by murdochic on Feb 3, 2014 12:09:09 GMT
Does anyone know if William and Julia will actually ever get married? Not really. But we have the strong hints they will from the sort of flashes into the future. Which obviously weren't real but they are likely a hint from the writers to the viewers. It would be strange if after all these seasons of W/J if they didn't get married at some point. Their storyline has always been building towards that. Unless one of the actors quits then I'd say they'll get a happily married ending to the show. |
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Post by fan2tvshows on Feb 3, 2014 20:10:14 GMT
I didn't think about that and you might be right. Indeed we could hear the voice of GILLIES when Julia was reading the letter in the previous episode and the name of Micheal SEATER appeared in the end credits. But I'm still convinced that GILLIES followed Julia during her investigations -even if I didn't see his face- because of the funny walk of this extra in the background. According to me, the gait of this extra was not natural and of course if it was actually GILLIES, the writers/creators surely would not want him to be recognized and so he must hide his face. Moreover maybe the creators choosed to launch the trailer of the next episode and the end credits in the same time in order that people do not notice the name of Micheal SEATER. His name was in the credits because of the voice-over. They wouldn't actually use the actor to be in the background even if it was Gillies. They'd use an extra/stand-in. That's not proof it's Gillies. Other than the voice-overs we have no proof it's him doing any of this. Which is why it's unlikely to be him at all. We'll have to wait and see when the show comes back in a month. Yes you're right, we have to wait and I just hope that I will be surprised and not to be disappointed, that's all I ask/want to. About the behaviour of Emily towards George, I have no explanations. In the previous episode she was cold and distant as if she wanted to avoid him and in the last episode, she was sad to be rejected by him... just a little while before agreeing to have dinner with Lesley. Do you have an idea? |
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Post by fan2tvshows on Feb 3, 2014 20:32:10 GMT
Does anyone know if William and Julia will actually ever get married? I have no idea. Their relationship is so much complicated. For now Willam and Julia are not married. They are AGAIN stuck in a deadlock and the seventh season will end in five episodes so that's why I'm not very optimistic about a possible wedding. |
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Post by snacky on Feb 3, 2014 22:26:53 GMT
Does anyone know if William and Julia will actually ever get married? I have no idea. Their relationship is so much complicated. For now Willam and Julia are not married. They are AGAIN stuck in a deadlock and the seventh season will end in five episodes so that's why I'm not very optimistic about a possible wedding. Even as a super-shipper, I would not want to see them get married while Murdoch Mysteries is still running. It would kill a lot of the tension and emotional conflict in the show. But I also hope the reasons to keep them apart don't get too artificial and implausible. I have a suspicion that Julia will disappear again (while Helene Joy does some other project), and William will be once more yearning from afar. |
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Post by murdochic on Feb 3, 2014 22:33:59 GMT
His name was in the credits because of the voice-over. They wouldn't actually use the actor to be in the background even if it was Gillies. They'd use an extra/stand-in. That's not proof it's Gillies. Other than the voice-overs we have no proof it's him doing any of this. Which is why it's unlikely to be him at all. We'll have to wait and see when the show comes back in a month. Yes you're right, we have to wait and I just hope that I will be surprised and not to be disappointed, that's all I ask/want to. About the behaviour of Emily towards George, I have no explanations. In the previous episode she was cold and distant as if she wanted to avoid him and in the last episode, she was sad to be rejected by him... just a little while before agreeing to have dinner with Lesley. Do you have an idea? Either it's down to bad writing and the writers can't decide if she wants George or not depending on the episode. Or her ego is bruised and she doesn't like being the one dumped. I wouldn't put it past Emily tbh. She does have an ego. I don't dislike the girl but they are writing her so she comes off as very fickle. In the next episode we should get a clearer idea of what her feelings are as Julia and her look like they're big in the plot. They need to start writing her with consistency for us to understand her properly. As for Gillies, I'm not sure how long they'll drag that storyline out. I suspect until the end of the season. But if it is Lesley they'll start dropping more clues in the next episode. Subtle they aren't lol. |
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