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Post by hannikan on Mar 16, 2011 13:08:52 GMT
Just a thought, but you may want to be a little be careful about posting where you obtain episodes from - as this is a public forum everyone can see - just to be on the safe side!  Were you referring to me? Yeah, I know that it is and I may go back and modify my post later. It's really irritating though that we in the U.S. have nowhere to watch it except such sites. |
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Post by hannikan on Mar 16, 2011 13:27:22 GMT
maybe it was the William and Julia subplot for another episode?or it's not entirely? Yeah I have a feeling the errors were meant for another episode, probably the finale. The subway aspect and Brackenreid getting involved in politics reminded me of the railroad interests and politics on RTA. But Brackenreid has accepted the nomination despite some misgivings about the agenda of his backers (or that they have an agenda at all). So it will be interesting to see how that plays out. I did notice some similarities to previous episodes, too. But I have noticed that in a few episodes, esp this season. It's bound to start happening as the show goes on. The body in the trunk, of course. The man who was homosexual and catching someone in the act with a photograph. A beautiful con artist assuming someone's persona after killing them. But lots of other elements were new. The facsimile painting was entertaining and new. Def clever, too. I thought that was funny when the two women came out of Guillame's room, too. They did make him exceedingly stereotypical as French "lover." I think it was meant to be obvious that he was over the top/stereotyped. I thought he was a bit ridiculous when he was reading the letters between Sophie and Monqiue. Julia has often giggled when men flatter her, I don't see why she wouldn't in this case even if we'd rather she didn't. I think it is sort of a nervous, somewhat uncomfortable giggle actually. A response to William being uncomfortable in that moment. I don't think it's surprising the Guillaume (William in French, of course, which was a fun play on names) realized they were in love after watching them interact. He saw them together more actually than Francis did. |
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Post by camilla on Mar 16, 2011 14:08:09 GMT
yes,probably it's the plot for the last episode..however strange thing..however strange Darcy haven't noted nothing between William and Julia,is enough see how they look each other..
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Mar 16, 2011 14:50:16 GMT
yeah, i thought it was an odd episode description so early on in the season. however, i still thought the letter was going to be part of it and was really dissapointed when it wasn't. so i'm not sure if this was the reason i didn't like the episode that much or if it just wasn't that great an episode. now i'm really pissed that i'll probably have to wait till the final episode for the letter to turn up.
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Post by hannikan on Mar 16, 2011 19:18:03 GMT
yes,probably it's the plot for the last episode..however strange thing..however strange Darcy haven't noted nothing between William and Julia,is enough see how they look each other.. I think he's noticed actually. Just because he hasn't said anything yet doesn't mean he hasn't noticed or suspected something. I wonder whether Julia has told him that she and William courted before she moved to Buffalo. Yeah I was disappointed the letter didn't show up in ep 5. I was hoping we would see Julia and Darcy break up but I guess that would have been kind of quick. There will probably be signs over the next several episodes that Darcy and Julia are not well suited after all and that William and Julia will get back together. But Darcy and Julia will still be scheduled to get married in the finale. I doubt they will actually end up married. |
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Post by Lucy on Mar 16, 2011 20:34:14 GMT
Just watched the episode! I too was upset because I was expecting a lot more from the episode description  Although some of the description was correct. Crabtree and Higgins were funny. Brackenreid's comments about the Frenchmen had me in stitches. Also it's nice to see a story for him that we should see develop over the coming episodes. |
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Post by hannikan on Mar 16, 2011 20:51:38 GMT
I think William is supposed to be part French-isn't Yannick Bisson French Canadian? Murdoch is Irish but William's mother may have been French. Did anyone notice there was another Yannick who acted in this episode? I think it must have been the man who played French detective (Guillaume). Guillaume is William in French, too. So they were playing on their names. It would have been funny to have Higgins overhear William and Guillaume talking since he speaks French, too. Maybe he did overhear and he and Crabtree will talk about it in another episode. Since Higgins seems to be more savvy about W & J than Crabtree. We'll probably see some interaction between Darcy and William at some point. The next episode features an autistic child so Darcy may help with that case.
I don't think Brackenreid will leave the station for politics but I bet he will get close/be tempted to. He's probably going to see a lot of shite in the course of his campaign though. And we know William will not make inspector or would have a very hard time achieving it because of being Catholic. If he was converted in order to marry Julia (a possibility he may be faced with in terms of her father) then it would be possible. I don't think he would do that and I don't think Julia would want him to either. She'd be more likely to try to fight the injustice of the powers that be with her family's influence, further angering her father. Crabtree might be a candidate and he did say he didn't think he could have the middle class family life he desired on his constable salary. If he wants to offer someone (ie: Ruby) that, he may try to gain the inspector position in competition with William. But ultimately I don't see the job positions changing in the end.
I have to wonder if it will be Darcy who will call off the wedding after seeing the way William and Julia are together. But will it be called off before or during the season finale? If it is called off before, then we may see the grooms change places. I think over the course of the rest of the season William's interest in adopting children will be revealed to Julia in addition to his intention of proposing. So that will change her feelings even more...
It does seem very convenient that Darcy could get a position at the Victoria Hospital for Sick Children so quickly but he said they had pursued him before whereas Julia was never offered a position there. They were an older institution than Children's Hospital of Buffalo so perhaps they were less willing to have women on staff. Although I think it was started by women so that's unlikely unless the admin had a changed a lot in 20 years... CHoB needed to search out a lot doctors because it was new and VHfSC may have just had no openings. But Darcy being someone they really wanted had an advantage. In any case the CHoB approached Julia while VHfSC did not.
ETA: Iden came on the Alibi board and told us Murdoch is Scottish, which makes sense given the way William handled the Irish in the Prince and the Rebel. He said "can you blame them (the Irish)?" to Brackenreid. If he'd been Irish he would have said us. Plus his Irish friend would have tried to get him to join the Brotherhood if William was Irish. It also makes more sense growing up in Nova Scotia. Apparently William is not at all French Canadian (at least not in the books). Someone also looked in more detail into the history of the Victoria Hospital for Sick Children and noticed that it was run out of a house when the women originally started it. By the 1890's it was a much larger institution run by men, so Julia may have had trouble getting a job there then.
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Post by lilmon on Mar 16, 2011 21:34:55 GMT
Yeah, I think Yannick is French Canadian and I read it somewhere that he is bilingual, but this was the first occasion that I have heard him speak French.
I loved this eppy for several reasons.
lilmon
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Post by camilla on Mar 16, 2011 21:36:59 GMT
I can only say i miss William and Julia scenes together a lot!maybe we can see other W/J scenes in the NeXT episodes but if we have Darcy around until the end of season i don't know what to' think..
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Post by hannikan on Mar 17, 2011 4:15:48 GMT
I'm watching it again and reminded of how I laughed at Inspector Guillaume's attempt at siesta and William and Brackenreid discussing the expression, "je ne sais quoi." I loved how Brackenreid called Guillaume our "long haired, cheese eating pond hopper." I also thought it was funny that Guillaume did not understand Jane/John Doe and William was trying to explain it. I found it obnoxious when Guillaume said that "life is a contest and women are the prize." Sexism at its finest. Women are notches on his belt. It was funny that William wasn't familiar with the "hairlooms" that Bishop made. They were very popular in this era.
I also noticed that William said that May 25th was almost 2 months ago. So it is late July now. So it has definitely been 9 months since Julia left to go to Buffalo. By the end of the season it will have been at least a year.
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Post by phonotone on Mar 17, 2011 5:06:50 GMT
I agree with hannikan about the job positions not changing. Not yet, at least. Although Brackenreid might not get the alderman position in the end, the whole ordeal will probably strengthen the relationship between Brackenreid and William. In this episode William clearly had a better knowledge of the subway systems and its merits. I think that Brackenreid will seek out William's opinions on certain matters. Maybe the government officials will notice that William could be a candidate for alderman, despite being a Protestant? (I know, wishful thinking) As much as I would love to see Crabtree get a promotion, I think that there would be too big of a jump from constable to inspector. Besides, I believe that Crabtree would prefer to be a detective, like Murdoch. He certainly has proven himself capable on a previous occasion. Speaking of the Victoria Hospital for Sick Children...today while I was wandering around the city (it was such a beautiful day!), I just happened to come across the building where this hospital was once located. It was built in 1892 and served until 1951, at which time the hospital was moved to a much larger building close by (where, coincidentally, I was born  ). The hospital was indeed started by a woman, although that was back when it was still situated in a small house (roughly between 1876 and 1892). Perhaps when the hospital was moved in 1892 men took over the establishment and thus were partial to hiring male doctors? Could this account for Darcy being hired and not Julia? For those interested in the location of the Victoria Hospital for Sick Children, the current Sick Kids Hospital, and the location of the actual police station no.4 (which, unfortunately, had been demolished), please click on the following link: maps.google.ca/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=200724145473518952878.00049ea4d7496dfbe241b&ll=43.660887,-79.382443&spn=0.016455,0.027595&z=15 To see how the Victoria Hospital for Sick Children looks like, select street view (PM me if you don’t know how to do this). |
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Post by hannikan on Mar 17, 2011 5:44:21 GMT
The hospital was indeed started by a woman, although that was back when it was still situated in a small house (roughly between 1876 and 1892). Perhaps when the hospital was moved in 1892 men took over the establishment and thus were partial to hiring male doctors? Could this account for Darcy being hired and not Julia? Yeah, I was thinking this might be a possibility in terms of a changing of the guard there. That's so cool that you can see it. I'm sure it saved many lives. I look forward to visiting Toronto and the surrounding area again (I was there in 2009) and hopefully see some of the MM filming sites. I agree with you about Crabtree being more interested in being a detective and that being a more logical step. I still think it's unlikely unless there's an opening at another stationhouse. Off to sleep! |
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Post by flip18 on Mar 17, 2011 10:44:29 GMT
Thanks for the info on the Hospital and the Google Map, phonotone. Very interesting. Would be great to see these locations 'for real', you're very lucky Agree with phontone and hannikan about Crabtree and promotion. Can see he and Higgins making quite the detective team in the future though. |
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Post by Lucy on Mar 17, 2011 14:10:58 GMT
Just watched the new episode again Brackenreid makes me laugh! |
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Post by hannikan on Mar 20, 2011 6:27:55 GMT
Wasn't it funny when Crabtree said "Merci Senor Guillaume."? Getting his French and Spanish mixed up there.
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Although some of the description was correct. 
Jan 30, 2013 21:44:55 GMT