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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 7:36:20 GMT
Oy, if you wanted to write super angsty fic **looks at Snacky**, you could write season 4/5 and to a lesser extent 6 William/Confession fic. Oh, my... I'll leave you two to plan that confession fic while I go to sleep...and dream things I'm very thankful not to have to confess.  lol, well if we've managed to seed some very naughty thoughts, then our job here is done.  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 16, 2014 7:37:26 GMT
And/or sheet laundry. That would be a sin which would require a rather embarrassing confession to his priest who has a crush on him. However, even dreams could technically fall into the category of coveting another man's wife. Agreed, but you can't help your feelings-that's something you can't control. I would be willing to bet that 2 Corinthians 12:7 got a good workout during this time. Some have thought Paul's thorn was physical in nature, but I've always thought it was mental-perhaps even a temptation of sorts. Whatever the case, suddenly William was no better than those he dealt with-he was right in it with them. www.gotquestions.org/Paul-thorn-flesh.html |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 7:48:40 GMT
That would be a sin which would require a rather embarrassing confession to his priest who has a crush on him. However, even dreams could technically fall into the category of coveting another man's wife. Agreed, but you can't help your feelings-that's something you can't control. I would be willing to bet that 2 Corinthians 12:7 got a good workout during this time. Some have thought Paul's thorn was physical in nature, but I've always thought it was mental-perhaps even a temptation of sorts. Whatever the case, suddenly William was no better than those he dealt with-he was right in it with them. www.gotquestions.org/Paul-thorn-flesh.htmlThis is also Saul/Paul - a sinner whose scales fell from his eyes. Maybe it was an STD from his previous swinger lifestyle?! Hmm, I like your point that this "affliction" put William among the sinners and made him less judgmental. Could this have started around Sally Pendrick time, though? Wasn't that a form of coveting as he admired the "landscape"? Didn't William start to open his mind to more bohemian lifestyles then - which would have caused "dark places" to bubble up and created the temptation/thorn. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 16, 2014 13:13:00 GMT
Agreed, but you can't help your feelings-that's something you can't control. I would be willing to bet that 2 Corinthians 12:7 got a good workout during this time. Some have thought Paul's thorn was physical in nature, but I've always thought it was mental-perhaps even a temptation of sorts. Whatever the case, suddenly William was no better than those he dealt with-he was right in it with them. www.gotquestions.org/Paul-thorn-flesh.htmlHmm, I like your point that this "affliction" put William among the sinners and made him less judgmental. Could this have started around Sally Pendrick time, though? Wasn't that a form of coveting as he admired the "landscape"? Didn't William start to open his mind to more bohemian lifestyles then - which would have caused "dark places" to bubble up and created the temptation/thorn. Perhaps it did start around Sally Pendrick, but who knows whether he realized he was coveting another man's wife. However, he's definitely realized it by season 4 and no later than season 5, but by then, it was too late. He was down in it by that point. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 16:51:36 GMT
Hmm, I like your point that this "affliction" put William among the sinners and made him less judgmental. Could this have started around Sally Pendrick time, though? Wasn't that a form of coveting as he admired the "landscape"? Didn't William start to open his mind to more bohemian lifestyles then - which would have caused "dark places" to bubble up and created the temptation/thorn. Perhaps it did start around Sally Pendrick, but who knows whether he realized he was coveting another man's wife. However, he's definitely realized it by season 4 and no later than season 5, but by then, it was too late. He was down in it by that point. The priest probably had to keep an emergency fan in the confession box! I can't believe it's one day until Monday. The amount of work I've procrastinated on this month is about to fall on me like an avalanche.  Dang MM for being so obsessible...  While I was comparing The X-Files, I realized MM was missing a secret room of Evil White Men plotting against society on behalf of mega-cartels/the 1%/the government/Big Science/Big Pharma, etc. Does Canada have Evil White Men or did multiculturalism triumph over that whole notion? |
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Post by Hodge on Nov 16, 2014 18:35:38 GMT
It's also interesting how Julia's theme, even before she realizes that William is still in love with her, is to make William express his feelings some how. Later in Dead End Street, she pushes emotional awareness and communication. In this episode she - after catching a bit of Guillaume's advice to William - agrees we should all try to be a little more French. She waited for months for a letter in Buffalo. Now she's right next to William and she still wants to know how he really feels. You'd have thought Julia would have picked up on William's feelings for her in Downstairs, Upstairs when they were confronted by Dr. Francis. He could see quite plainly why William had been giving him a hard time since the start. I think Julia realized William hadn't moved on but somehow it didn't occur to her that he still loved her. |
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Nov 17, 2014 0:39:22 GMT
Whoah wait....;
How did Monique's sister not recognize her? Wouldn't you know you're own sibling? Did I miss something here?
Brackenried was on top form:
I also love that scene where the French Inspector and Murdoch first meet.
That and calling George & Henry "little monkeys" was just great.
Also in this week of Murdoch Mysteries, Murdoch invents pixels, and color by numbers.
Did Toronto ever get that 'Underground Railway'? That Brackenried's political backers were pushing?
Also there seems to be a fondness in the early seasons for putting people into trunks.
Williams expression when Gillaume was making a move on Julia! No wonder he picked up on it so fast!
I love how both Dectectives seem to be advising Brackenried on his policies, for his run for office thing.
And we have another instance of awkward conversations in the carriage. No wonder William prefers bikes.
We don't see to much of Murdoch developing his photos nowdays.
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Post by snacky on Nov 17, 2014 0:39:33 GMT
You'd have thought Julia would have picked up on William's feelings for her in Downstairs, Upstairs when they were confronted by Dr. Francis. He could see quite plainly why William had been giving him a hard time since the start. I think Julia realized William hadn't moved on but somehow it didn't occur to her that he still loved her. I only have 2 theories: 1) William's signals are more apparent to men than women. (Unlikely). 2) Julia is as big a nerd as William and therefore just as dense. Therefore even though she keeps talking a big game about emotions, she drops the ball when it's thrown to her. |
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Post by Hodge on Nov 17, 2014 0:45:14 GMT
You'd have thought Julia would have picked up on William's feelings for her in Downstairs, Upstairs when they were confronted by Dr. Francis. He could see quite plainly why William had been giving him a hard time since the start. I think Julia realized William hadn't moved on but somehow it didn't occur to her that he still loved her. I only have 2 theories: 1) William's signals are more apparent to men than women. (Unlikely). 2) Julia is as big a nerd as William and therefore just as dense. Therefore even though she keeps talking a big game about emotions, she drops the ball when it's thrown to her. I think I agree with you on the second point. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 17, 2014 0:48:04 GMT
2) Julia is as big a nerd as William and therefore just as dense. Therefore even though she keeps talking a big game about emotions, she drops the ball when it's thrown to her. That, or she's that terrified of rejection she won't accept anything less than an outright declaration of love. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 17, 2014 0:50:16 GMT
How did Monique's sister not recognize her? Wouldn't you know you're own sibling? Did I miss something here? Did Toronto ever get that 'Underground Railway'? And we have another instance of awkward conversations in the carriage. No wonder William prefers bikes. We don't see to much of Murdoch developing his photos nowdays. Monique's sister was murdered the minute she got off the boat - her body was found on the train. At the hotel was the French con woman and her accomplice. William's inability to read love letters with passion: yep, he has to work on that... The Underground Railway always wants me want to sing the Monorail song from the Simpsons. I'm sure that's an intended association. I wonder if William actually has a few "dark places" fantasies involving carriages at this point. Julia might be able to meet him half way on that one.   William is not developing the photos because George is better at it! (Julia might be borrowing the Scrutiny Camera to give William a few "art pictures" for Christmas, though...) |
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Post by snacky on Nov 17, 2014 0:51:33 GMT
2) Julia is as big a nerd as William and therefore just as dense. Therefore even though she keeps talking a big game about emotions, she drops the ball when it's thrown to her. That, or she's that terrified of rejection she won't accept anything less than an outright declaration of love. She must have really suspected William of being a cad, lol. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 17, 2014 0:53:59 GMT
That, or she's that terrified of rejection she won't accept anything less than an outright declaration of love. She must have really suspected William of being a cad, lol. I don't know that she felt he was a cad, but her feelings were such that she needed that declaration from him. If there was any doubt that he didn't feel for her what she felt for him-she was out. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 17, 2014 0:55:42 GMT
She must have really suspected William of being a cad, lol. I don't know that she felt he was a cad, but her feelings were such that she needed that declaration from him. If there was any doubt that he didn't feel for her what she felt for him-she was out. I think she needed a firm timeline for engagement/marriage from him. She's probably heard "love" before...from cads. |
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Nov 17, 2014 0:58:24 GMT
How did Monique's sister not recognize her? Wouldn't you know you're own sibling? Did I miss something here? Did Toronto ever get that 'Underground Railway'? And we have another instance of awkward conversations in the carriage. No wonder William prefers bikes. We don't see to much of Murdoch developing his photos nowdays. Monique's sister was murdered the minute she got off the boat - her body was found on the train. At the hotel was the French con woman and her accomplice. William's inability to read love letters with passion: yep, he has to work on that... The Underground Railway always wants me want to sing the Monorail song from the Simpsons. I'm sure that's an intended association. I wonder if William actually has a few "dark places" fantasies involving carriages at this point. Julia might be able to meet him half way on that one. William is not developing the photos because George is better at it! (Julia might be borrowing the Scrutiny Camera to give William a few "art pictures" for Christmas, though...) Okay so I did miss something thank you! |
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Dang MM for being so obsessible... 
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